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To: EternalVigilance
So, are you accusing the President of lying to the American people?

Anyone who remembers what he said during the campaign knows he's lying.

Yeah. Lying. Big time.

"I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building," - GW Bush - 2000 Campaign

"We’re not into nation-building," - GW Bush Sept 2001

"The United States, along with the European Union and Arab states, will work with Palestinian leaders to create a new constitutional framework, and a working democracy for the Palestinian people. And the United States, along with others in the international community will help the Palestinians organize and monitor fair, multi-party local elections by the end of the year, with national elections to follow." - GW Bush 2002

That's called lying. "We're not into nation-building" was a bald-faced lie. That's exactly what they're into. They also think people are pretty stupid not to recognize a lie when they hear it. Apparently they're right given your faith in their credulity.

135 posted on 10/13/2002 3:07:39 PM PDT by Demidog
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To: Demidog
They also think people are pretty stupid not to recognize a lie when they hear it. Apparently they're right given your faith in their credulity.

Chip off the old block!!

"Read My Lips... No New Taxes."

136 posted on 10/13/2002 3:14:21 PM PDT by Beenliedto
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To: Demidog
Yeah. Lying. Big time.

Okay, second glass of wine, last post (for today).

What amazes me is that people think the leadership is principled. You cannot gain high political office in this (or probably any other) nation by being principled.

You can only achieve power at that level by lying, cheating, being devious, telling people what they want to hear, etc.

It is difficult to comprehend why folks just can't grasp this reality.

137 posted on 10/13/2002 3:22:32 PM PDT by Beenliedto
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To: Demidog
As you may or may not know, I have been a consistent critic of the Administration on certain policies--especially domestic. But I have been very pleased with the Bush foreign policy, by and large.

They have done a good job of keeping us from continuing to slide down into the morass created by the tinpot dictators who run the U.N.

Are we 'nation-building' in Afgahistan? Not by the definition that was in play when Bush was asked the question you are referring to. We have aided the transition to a free government, yes...but we are not doing what an occupying power would classically be thought of as 'nation-building'.

It is likely that the same sort of scenario, with some unique differences created by the situation, will play out in Iraq. This country has no interest in running the affairs of the Iraqi people. We are just sick and tired of having to worry about what sort of horrendous act Hussein will perpetrate next.
140 posted on 10/13/2002 3:45:40 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Demidog
Yeah. Lying. Big time.

"I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building," - GW Bush - 2000 Campaign

"We’re not into nation-building," - GW Bush Sept 2001

"The United States, along with the European Union and Arab states, will work with Palestinian leaders to create a new constitutional framework, and a working democracy for the Palestinian people. And the United States, along with others in the international community will help the Palestinians organize and monitor fair, multi-party local elections by the end of the year, with national elections to follow." - GW Bush 2002

The primary focus of the Presidents policy is to remove two dictators, Sadaam and Arafat, both of whom support terrorism.

It is the vacuum that the removal of these two dictators will cause, that will necessitate some sort of nation building.

So the nation building in Iraq and Palestine is the result of the primary focus, unlike in Bosnia and Haiti, where the primary focus was -- NATION BUILDING!

You take the President out of context. You don't even show the full context of his three quotes.

144 posted on 10/13/2002 6:06:02 PM PDT by FreeReign
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