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To: Luis Gonzalez
"When has the US, in wartime or in peace, ever used the US Army to enforce civil law?"

1. The Civil War
2. World War I
3. The Veteran Riots in D.C. during the Great Depression.
4. World War II
5. Little Rock, AR - Civil rights enforcement
6. Vietnam War

Give me some more time and I'll get more.

"When has this notion of freedom that drives our form of self-government, included militarizing the borders, during wartime or in peace?"

1. Spanish - American War
2. Pancho Villa incursions
3. World War I
4. World War II

Given some more time, I'm sure I can find more. We deployed heavily on the southern border during the world wars because we could not trust the Mexican government to keep out German infiltrators. Gee, what a shock.
67 posted on 10/14/2002 12:29:06 PM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
Mexico should be dealt with in a manner that would make your nickname proud :-D
69 posted on 10/14/2002 4:41:57 PM PDT by Tancredo Fan
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
Let's first take into consideration that the Posse Comitatus Act was specifically enacted to stop Federal troops from enforcing civilian laws in the post-Civil War south before taking apart the remainder of your ridiculous list.

Next, I guess I have to explain the difference between the National Guard (a State Militia) and the U.S. Army (Federal) to you, you seem not to be real clear on the difference between the two, since you've listed National Guard interventions as part of your examples of the US Army enforcing civil law.

In order to understand the role of the U.S. Military in our country, you must first understand the natural aversion of the Americans at the time of the Revolution, to the age-old practice by European monarchs of using the military to keep the masses in place. The Founders themselves envisioned a militia-based military that would have no role in the enforcement of Civil Laws.

The Spanish-American War did not see any militarization of the borders, and the Pancho Villa raids sparked Pershing's Punitive Expedition into Mexico, not a militarization of the borders.

To the best of my knowledge, the US Army was too busy during either World War to take an active role in protecting the domestic borders, and that task was once again left to the Reserves, and the National Guard.

Unless of course, you can substantiate your claims that it did. Or substantiate anything at all that you posted for that matter.

73 posted on 10/14/2002 8:55:21 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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