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To: Luis Gonzalez
but to insinuate that the U.S. has clean hands in this is silly.

I wonder if you can find someone on this thread who was insinuating that? We have a crime wave because we are not enforcing our laws.

but fact is, we are giving them welfare. You see, I see that as being the real problem.

Yup that is a real problem. So is the drug smuggling and the threat of terrorism. Do you think drug cartels and terrorists are looking for some free welfare?

122 posted on 10/15/2002 10:48:19 PM PDT by PuNcH
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To: PuNcH
"Do you think drug cartels and terrorists are looking for some free welfare?"

Supply and demand as far as the drug smugglers are concerned.

Look, if what we have right now is a situation where the estimates on how many illegals are caught at the border run anywhere from 10% to 30%, I happen to be a proponent of eliminating the reasons why they come, in order to lower the number of crossings, to me, that seems a lot simpler (and cheaper) to do what's needed to be done. Every other "solution" either costs the US taxpayer more money, or pose dangers to our civil liberties.

If indeed you militarize and close the border with Mexico, you also create a situation where it is even more profitable to smuggle people in. So next, you'd have to militarize the shores, because it is now highly profitable to bring them in boats, and so on.

We need a workable, logical solution that will lower the intended number of illegal entries into the country.

Limit welfare to emergency and humanitarian services, challenge the current interpretation of the fourteenth amendment to eliminate "anchor" babies, impose heavy fines for businesses and individuals using undocumented workers, create a good guest worker program.

Change the people who write the laws, and in turn they change the people who interpret those laws.

I want solutions, not the ridiculous crap I keep reading in here.

123 posted on 10/15/2002 11:34:25 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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