[ChadGore]

Agreed. I drove one of those astrovan POS at work myself. It handles like a mud ball in mud, it's tippier than chelsey at a frat party, and has all the power of an AMC pacer.

[RedBloodedAmerican]

Here is what gets me: How would you like to be the guy stuck in a traffic backup in your car directly behind the van carrying the sniper?? Wouldn't this guy go out in a hail of bullets, or would he let himself get caught?