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NEWSFLASH: Another shooting, approx. 9 AM, this time near Fredericksburg
The Free Lance-Star ^ | now | Jim Lakely

Posted on 10/11/2002 6:54:58 AM PDT by seamus

I work in a newsroom in Fredericksburg, and they heard on the police scanner that a person has been shot at a gas station at "Four Mile Fork" which is a neighborhood just south of the City of Fredericksburg.

No details yet, but I wanted to let y'all know -- and keep up the tradition of FReepers getting news first.

Pray for the victim, and pray that this is a random shooting, and that this monster's terror has not widened yet again.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: monster; shooting; sniper
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To: seamus

We've GOT to bring him out of cryo-freeze...

--KL

1,381 posted on 10/11/2002 11:33:49 AM PDT by Kip Lange
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To: TrappedInLiberalHell
"If it does turn out to be a local nut, then maybe he is deliberately NOT hitting Muslim types, to make people profile him as a Muslim."

I don't think that anybody has profiled him/her/it as a Muslim except us here at FR.

1,382 posted on 10/11/2002 11:34:08 AM PDT by tractorman
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To: tractorman
How many civilians have heard both a rifle shot and a pistol shot aimed in their general direction? How do you tell the difference?
1,383 posted on 10/11/2002 11:34:50 AM PDT by js1138
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To: ozidar
have something belonging to the suspect so that the dog can get a scent?

The tarot card, the letter and the casing.

1,384 posted on 10/11/2002 11:34:53 AM PDT by ARCADIA
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To: ozidar
have something belonging to the suspect so that the dog can get a scent?

The tarot card, the letter and the casing.

1,385 posted on 10/11/2002 11:34:53 AM PDT by ARCADIA
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To: John_11_25
How far is the river from most of these incidents and what about cable or telephone ducts in the ground, are they big enough to move around in.

If I had to guess, I'd say less than ten miles from the river, but I don't think there's anything that would allow him to move underground in that neck of the woods. (don't hold me to that, though)

1,386 posted on 10/11/2002 11:35:28 AM PDT by mhking
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Just got in, Kim. Lots of threads to read through. Understand there was unfortunately another victim. Any other news I should know? Regards
1,387 posted on 10/11/2002 11:35:46 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Letitring
I'm still down here in the 800's but Pete mentioned yesterday he thought shooter(s) would go to Frederick not Fredericksburg. Frederick is in MD up past and to the west (I think) of Gaithersburg. I used to work in that area.

Sorry if this has been posted already.
1,388 posted on 10/11/2002 11:36:09 AM PDT by valleygal
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To: fivecatsandadog
No doubt using the Calvin and Hobbes duplicator.
1,389 posted on 10/11/2002 11:36:34 AM PDT by js1138
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To: Kip Lange
Just the facts, Kip.
1,390 posted on 10/11/2002 11:36:49 AM PDT by tractorman
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To: ARCADIA
The tarot card, the letter and the casing.

Assuming all three don't turn out to be red herrings/unrelated (also assuming they really have all three).

--KL

1,392 posted on 10/11/2002 11:37:58 AM PDT by Kip Lange
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To: Squantos
Would ya not think that the number of "hits" in this urban area on the spectrs sensors would keep the LEO's busier than a one legged man in an ass kicking contest?

It would be a piece of cake. The AC's would simply loiter waiting for a call. When the LEO called in the position of a hit, they could throw down all sensors recording everything in sight. They would not need to search the crowed areas, because those would be covered by locals. The AC would jump to the less crowded or wooded areas. At the very least, the BDA tape would eventually turn up bits and pieces. At the best, they would catch a fast mover in the area and lock on to it. If no suspicious movers were seen, they could take more time and search wooded areas. There is never certainty, but this used to be an everyday training scenario. The problem is that, most AC's are deployed overseas, and they don't have many to begin with.

1,393 posted on 10/11/2002 11:38:18 AM PDT by ghostrider
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To: js1138
"No doubt using the Calvin and Hobbes duplicator"

pardon my ignorance.... what the heck does that mean?

1,394 posted on 10/11/2002 11:38:21 AM PDT by fivecatsandadog
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To: mhking
WMAL AM 630 - Interviewing Congressman in Spotsylvania

The victim was about 40 years old.
He was shot in the side.
He was pronounced dead on arrival at the hospital.

1,395 posted on 10/11/2002 11:39:16 AM PDT by relee
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To: Indiana Jones
They also helped Al Queda put out training videos.

Do not rule out terrorism.

I remeber reading a while back that Al Queda were joinging forces with right wing groups in the US.

If they did then this is a group of right wing nuts distracting law enforcement from the real target, as explosives are moved into place in Washington DC.

Remember they came back for the WTC after failing the first time to bring it down.

On September the 11th they wanted the White House and Congress. So maybe they have come back to do just that.

They also tried to blow up a ship in Yemen and it did not work the first time, so they tried again with The Cole.

The shoe bomber tried to get on the plane and was not allowed, he was then informed to try again.

Hopefully history is not repeating itself.

1,396 posted on 10/11/2002 11:39:57 AM PDT by John_11_25
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To: Dog
This guy had to see that Trooper across the street when he was sighting the victim......and took the shot anyway..

And chose not to get the trooper!

1,397 posted on 10/11/2002 11:40:34 AM PDT by ARCADIA
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To: js1138
I can't answer for the average civilian but my experience is that a rifle shot goes KA-BANG and a piston goes bang.
1,398 posted on 10/11/2002 11:41:13 AM PDT by tractorman
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To: pttttt
One thing you might try while filling your gas tank is setting the clamp on the nozzle (so you don't have to stand there outside your car holding it) and either then walking around or getting back in the car and shutting the door.

Do be careful re-entering the car while gasoline vapors are present. There's a potential for a static electricity spark to jump between the person and the car's body. A similar phenomenon is what caused the Hindenburg fire, and why gas cans must be set on the ground before bing filled.

1,399 posted on 10/11/2002 11:42:16 AM PDT by Chemist_Geek
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To: tractorman
I don't think that anybody has profiled him/her/it as a Muslim except us here at FR.

Not officially, anyway.

1,400 posted on 10/11/2002 11:43:40 AM PDT by TrappedInLiberalHell
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