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To: nmh
No he didn't. If he did he wouldn't be an evolutionist. He is a charlton claiming to be a Christian, follower of Jesus but he isn't. He follows his own teachings. Creationists, like myself shun these phonies.

I don't see the problem in believing that God set the conditions for evolution to occur. It takes more genius to set the conditions for evolution to create the animals than to just create them all at once.

Gen 1:24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

It says the God let the earth bring forth the animals after their kind. Could be evolution. I think this anger over evolution is petty. What does it matter whether God used evolution or didn't. It's a miracle either way.

The "days" in Genesis could be any time period.

Gen 1:5 And God [0430] called [07121] (8799) the light [0216] Day [03117], and the darkness [02822] he called [07121] (8804) Night [03915]. And the evening [06153] and the morning [01242] were the first [0259] day [03117].

Taking #3117 from above:

03117 yowm {yome}

from an unused root meaning to be hot; TWOT - 852; n m

AV - day 2008, time 64, chronicles + 01697 37, daily 44, ever 18,

year 14, continually 10, when 10, as 10, while 8, full 8 always 4, whole 4, alway 4, misc 44; 2287

1) day, time, year
1a) day (as opposed to night)
1b) day (24 hour period)
1b1) as defined by evening and morning in Genesis 1
1b2) as a division of time
1b2a) a working day, a day's journey
1c) days, lifetime (pl.)
1d) time, period (general)
1e) year
1f) temporal references
1f1) today
1f2) yesterday
1f3) tomorrow

The Hebrew word translated into "day" could be any general time period in this context. A day to God is not the same as a day to us:

2Pe 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day [is] with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

A day to God can be a very long time for us.

54 posted on 10/11/2002 7:58:29 AM PDT by #3Fan
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To: #3Fan; nmh
The really important issue is the uniformitarian premise of modern science, scientism, and atheistic evolutionary naturalism. In contrast, the biblical worldview presumes that our natural system of uniform cause and effect is open to divine, miraculous intervention, and that therefore there can be and have been discontinuities in the past. In particular, the creation, the fall, and the flood all constitute major and profound discontinuities.

The problem with all the discussion about what is meant by a "day" is that even if it were somehow possible to travel back in time (and it isn't possible, in spite of a bunch of good science fiction stories), one could not travel past any of these major continuities and assume that the clock that you had with you would still measure time as it actually was then. You cannot apply current measures of time to what transpired on the prior side of each major discontinuity.

This is a major problem for evolutionary theory. It presumes a uniform time line and attempts to fit all the fossil evidence into it. But the time line is not uniform, and we really have no way to even define, let alone measure, how time transpired back then.

Denying the uniformitarian hypothesis is the pulling out of the table cloth underneath the whole house of evolutionary cards.

So how do we make sense of Gen 1? It is not an eyewitness narative of the actual event, but a revelation by God after the event. It cannot possibly be anything else. As a revelation, I take it as reasonable that it is structured as a sort of thematic outline and summary of what transpired. The structure of seven days is purposeful mainly for teaching us the lesson that time, as well as space, matter, and energy, is a creation of God, and that by counting our time in seven day increments and resting on the seventh we do acknowledge and honor God as the creator and Lord over time, including our time. How long did it actually take God? I have no idea -- He could have done it in an instant or in bilions of years, and we have no meaningful way to measure that would make any distinction between the two.

67 posted on 10/11/2002 8:50:26 AM PDT by Stefan Stackhouse
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