The three questions deal directly with post #251. You won't answer my questions because you're trying to portray yourself as not saying that Christians are mystics.
Further more, afraid of you?
You're getting careless again. I said you're afraid to answer my questions.
I don't lie, not even to a person like you that is deserving of nothing but scorn. Which is nothing compared to many people (identified in post 251) who in the name of fun and love routinely lie to their own children -- flying reindeer towing Santa Clause being the most repeated lie, followed by Easter bunny and tooth fairy.
You forgot one, the teaching of a supernatural God. You're getting careless again.
See what I mean about you being like the judge, jury and executioner at a Star Chamber Inquisition; you have great desire to force me to lie. What happens if I continue to stand behind post 251, are you going to burn me at the stake.
You're burning yourself at the stake by not standing by your atheist philosophy. I've caught you in an inconsistency. You atheists are always accusing Christians of inconsistancies, but now you can't back up your words in post #251 by answering my questions.
Quick lesson on what is and what isn't a lie. Person A asks person B what day of the week it is. Person B responds, "it's Tuesday". Unbeknownst to person B it is actually Wednesday. Person B made an error not a lie.
So are you saying that you made an error when you said that those that teach of a supernatural God practice mysticism?
Why the above explanation? To clarify that for the vast majority of parents and people that inject the non-reality/mysticism supernatural God concept into children's minds, they're not telling a lie, For they actually believe the concept to be valid;...
Error or not, are they committing child abuse? In post #251, you said they were.
For they do know that none of those three exist in reality; they would be person D in the above example.
So the only ones that qualifies for your child abuse charge are the God worshippers who also do the other three. Most Christians do the other three along with their teachings of a supernatural God, so are you going to be consistant and say they they are committing child abuse like you said in post #251?
I'm not an atheist due to a technical concern. It's way over your head so I won't bother trying to explain.
You put all this importance on the teaching of Santa Claus and you want to say something is over my head? LOL
For discussion purposes I'll accept the atheist label. I stand by words each time I repost post 251. I further backed post 251 with post 327. You just can't stand it that I'm not bowing before you: the judge, jury and executioner at your "Medieval Inquisition".
I'm testing you for consistancy. You fail.
I repeat, I stand by words each time I repost post 251. I further backed post 251 with post 327.
Then answer my questions. Those that don't have faith in their philosophy are afraid of questions.
I told you in post 331, regarding your false claims: "Post 326 was thorough and also my final post regarding your false claims in post 272, 276, 277 and 317 (all four reposted above) and your dishonesty in dealing with them." In post 326 I particular like the analogy of you and the Washington Post writer.
What the Washington post writer said was a lie though, because not all Dems were stalling. All Christians believe in a supernatural God.
The context is clear without answering your questions, you admit that below. See below.
Yep you clearly said that those that teach of a supernatural God are guilty of child abuse. Therefore you meant all Christians are guilty of child abuse. Therefore I was right in attacking the atheist governments policy of genocide in the 20th century. It is a relevent topic.
You admit that post 251 is clear enough.
Yep and you said that Christians are guilty of child abuse.
You've known that all along. Thus there's no need to answer your questions. Which is precisely why I chose not to. That I wouldn't dignify you by answering your questions is irrelevant and at best secondary. It's obvious that you're on a witch hunt and that you've found your victim (a victim that never hid and always stood in plain "view") and have proceeded to be judge, jury and executioner of your "Medieval Inquisition".
Atheist governments committed the worst atrocities of the 20th century.
I backed post 251 with post 327. BTW, this thread is not 500 posts in length (not even close to it) and your "Medieval Inquisition" didn't start until after I posted post 251. Your atheist issue is irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. There's many people that aren't atheists and many that are atheists that inject into the innocent and formative young minds of little children the three non-realities/mysticism -- flying reindeer towing (Santa Clause), Easter bunny and tooth fairy. People that do that are intentionally lying to young children with the intent to deceive the child. As you said, "as if post #251 wasn't clear enough". Many people rationalize that the deception is good because it's done in the name of fun and love. They throw honest principle out the window. For an in-depth treatment see post 327.
Are you going to press the government to press charges against Christians for their "hideous child abuse" that you accused them of in post #251?
You won't answer my questions because you're trying to portray yourself as not saying that Christians are mystics.
I have told you numerous times why I don't answer your questions. You proclaim to know better than I why I don't answer your questions. You're a hoot!
Zon: I don't lie, not even to a person like you that is deserving of nothing but scorn. Which is nothing compared to many people (identified in post 251) who in the name of fun and love routinely lie to their own children -- flying reindeer towing Santa Clause being the most repeated lie, followed by Easter bunny and tooth fairy. 335
You forgot one, the teaching of a supernatural God. You're getting careless again.
A person would only be telling a lie only when they know what they are saying isn't true. Since I explained in that same post (335) the difference between a lie and an error either it is you once again being careless, probably due to your mysticism-polluted mind which has simple failed you and one symptom that has shown through is your carelessness -- carelessness that has gotten way out of hand. If not that, it appears that you're saying that you know a supernatural God doesn't exists but "teach" it regardless of knowing the truth. I mean, how else do you explain you saying "You forgot one, the teaching of a supernatural God." because for the vast majority of people (99.9%) when they "teach" the supernatural God concept they don't know that a supernatural God doesn't exist -- thus they're not lying. To lie is to say something that the speaker knows to be false.
You're burning yourself at the stake by not standing by your atheist philosophy. I've caught you in an inconsistency. You atheists are always accusing Christians of inconsistancies, but now you can't back up your words in post #251 by answering my questions.
I'm burning up with laughter. And you know what, it feels damn good. You've caught your own Jupiter-sized ego. I've been consistent and have stood by post 251, never wavering, never retracting anything and never editing it as can be seen by my repeated reposting of post 251. Also, I backed up post 251 in post 327. I told you why I don't answer your questions. Your demand for answers is your questions is you playing judge, jury and executioner at your "Medieval Inquisition".
Zon: Quick lesson on what is and what isn't a lie. Person A asks person B what day of the week it is. Person B responds, "it's Tuesday". Unbeknownst to person B it is actually Wednesday. Person B made an error not a lie. 335
So are you saying that you made an error when you said that those that teach of a supernatural God practice mysticism?
Isn't that convenient of you to omit a portion of the lesson to suit your agenda. Here's the complete lesson as it was posted in post 335: The part you omitted to suit your dishonest agenda is highlighted in red
Zon: Quick lesson on what is and what isn't a lie. Person A asks person B what day of the week it is. Person B responds, "it's Tuesday". Unbeknownst to person B it is actually Wednesday. Person B made an error not a lie. Example 2: Person C asks person D what day of the week it is. Person D, knowing it's actually Wednesday responds, "it's Tuesday". Person D told a lie. 335
Your dishonesty know no bounds. I suppose you probably think some supernatural God smiles upon that.
Zon: Why the above explanation? To clarify that for the vast majority of parents and people that inject the non-reality/mysticism supernatural God concept into children's minds, they're not telling a lie, For they actually believe the concept to be valid... 335
Error or not, are they committing child abuse? In post #251, you said they were.
I stand behind post 251 and backed it up with post 327, which I stand behind as well.
Here's the middle part of the paragraph from post 335 you omitted and didn't respond to: " they would be Person B in the above example. On the other hand, parents that inject the non-realities/mysticism of the other three -- flying reindeer towing (Santa Clause), Easter bunny, tooth fairy -- are telling a lie." 335
Here you pick up at the end of the paragraph:
Zon: For they do know that none of those three exist in reality; they would be person D in the above example.335
You've really lost it. Why? Because first you omit the portion of the lesson that included "Example 2" with Person C and Person D (highlighted in red, eight paragraphs above) to suit your dishonest agenda. Then in my explanation that immediately followed the lesson -- as I said in post 335 "Why the above explanation?" -- you have included the explanation reference to Person D in the lesson I gave. In other words, you omitted a critical part of the lesson (Example2) I gave and then in the explanation I gave for the lesson, you quote a section of my explanation (Person D that refers back to Person D in Example 2 (which you omitted)). You really are a hoot! Tripping all over yourself and all. Do you do birthday parties?
Zon: For they do know that none of those three exist in reality; they would be person D in the above example.335
So the only ones that qualifies for your child abuse charge are the God worshippers who also do the other three. Most Christians do the other three along with their teachings of a supernatural God, so are you going to be consistant and say they they are committing child abuse like you said in post #251?
"So the only ones that qualifies for your child abuse charge are the God worshippers who also do the other three."
I already explained in post 333 and reposted it in post 335. You're feigning. I simple can't believe you're that in competent. Here it is again: (Key words highlighted in red identify the people that qualify -- emphasis in bold and extreme emphasis underlined.)
Zon: Clearly the context of post 251 (reposted below) is the group. The group identified is: any person and all persons that partake in injecting one of the four non-realities/mysticism into other people's minds; the four non-realities/mysticism are (1) flying reindeer towing a fat man (Santa Clause), (2) Easter bunny, (3) tooth fairy and (4) supernatural God. Common-sense logic is that the group can be categorized into several subgroups, which I never did categorize any subgroups because I chose the context to be the whole group. 333, 335
Zon: I'm not an atheist due to a technical concern. It's way over your head so I won't bother trying to explain. 335
You put all this importance on the teaching of Santa Claus and you want to say something is over my head? LOL
Most of what I've been doing is over your head. Frankly, I'm still somewhat amazed that you haven't caught on yet. Cary on.
Zon: You just can't stand it that I'm not bowing before you: the judge, jury and executioner at your "Medieval Inquisition". 335
Zon: I repeat, I stand by words each time I repost post 251. I further backed post 251 with post 327. 335
Then answer my questions. Those that don't have faith in their philosophy are afraid of questions.
Your questions don't scare me in the least. It sure is fun watching you perform though.
Zon: In post 326 I particular like the analogy of you and the Washington Post writer. 335
What the Washington post writer said was a lie though, because not all Dems were stalling. All Christians believe in a supernatural God.
Your mischaracterization of the Washington Post Writer analogy to you is duly noted. In fact, I like the analogy so much I'll repost it here: (The reader that wants the context as it was originally presented can read it at post 326)
"I put forth an analogy. Two weeks ago a Washington Post reporter created a mind-spun fabrication. He wrote that in a speech President Bush said that it was Senate Democrats that were stalling Homeland Security. That is, the Washington Post writer claimed that President Bush's comment was meant/directed at the Senate Democrats sub-group. When in fact President Bush said that it was the Senators (the whole group identified) that were stalling Homeland Security.
"Hundreds of Freepers jumped on that mind-spun fabrication that the Washington Post reporter had created. A few other news sources had articles in their printed papers and online articles that claimed the same as the Washington Post article.
"Several articles that weren't liberal-biased were posted on FreeRepublic. In those articles the writers pointed out the mind-spun fabrication in the Washington Post article and other articles that claimed the same.
"It was clear to virtually every Freeper who read one or more of those non-liberal-biased articles that at best it was an error and at worst, intentional deception via mind-spun fabrication. Considering the liberal bias in the news outlets that reported the mind-spun fabrication as truth, the vast majority of Freepers took the position that it was a deliberate deception being foisted on the readers of those news outlets.
"Again, the Washington Post writer's mind-spun fabrication that he created was that President Bush meant/directed his comment at the Senate Democrat sub-group -- when in fact, President Bush meant/directed his comment at the Senate which is inclusive of all Senators." 326
Atheist governments committed the worst atrocities of the 20th century
"In one thirty-year period, Christian religious wars wiped out one-third the population of Europe. "275 -- andy_card. There's no valid reason for a person, group of persons or government to initiate force, threat of force or fraud against any person.
Zon: Your atheist issue is irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. There's many people that aren't atheists and many that are atheists that inject into the innocent and formative young minds of little children the three non-realities/mysticism -- flying reindeer towing (Santa Clause), Easter bunny and tooth fairy. People that do that are intentionally lying to young children with the intent to deceive the child. As you said, "as if post #251 wasn't clear enough". Many people rationalize that the deception is good because it's done in the name of fun and love. They throw honest principle out the window. For an in-depth treatment see post 327. 335
Are you going to press the government to press charges against Christians for their "hideous child abuse" that you accused them of in post #251?
No.
Finally, after more than a dozen post to you I have my first question for you: Do you think it is wrong for an adult to inject one or more of the three lies/non-realities/mysticism -- flying reindeer towing Santa Clause, Easter bunny, tooth fairy -- into a young child's mind knowing that the adult's intent is to deceive the child into believing that a specific lie/non-reality/mysticism exists when in fact it doesn't exist?