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To: #3Fan

You said that those that teach of a supernatural God commit hideous child abuse. Christians are certainly in that group. It's irrelevent whether you meant them exclusively or not since they are certainly included in your grouping.

It isn't relevant because post 251 identified all people who partake in injecting one of the four non-realities/mysticism into other people's minds. You claimed that post 251 was meant/directed at just Christians and Christianity. Post 251 was not meant/directed to single out the sub-group of Christians or any other sub-group. No where have you said that in post 251 I meant/directed it to single out any other sub-group. No where have you said that I meant/directed it to identify all the people in the largest group. You claimed that post 251 was meant/directed at the Christian sub-group.

If I had meant/directed post 251 at Christians and or Christianity I would have made that clear. Frankly, in my mind as I was writing post 251 I suspected that persons in the sub-group that would most benefit from it would be the non-believers or atheists sub-group. I kept that to myself.

While I was writing what would become post 251 I was writing to all people that would eventually read it. That included the few people that already knew what was explained in post 251. Thus, the persons that post 251 was meant/directed at was quite literally every possible person that could read it. That's precisely why I did not specifically identify or single out any sub-group. Nor have I ever done so in the past when posting a similar explanation on this forum other forums or in verbally speaking to people.

I repeat, you claimed that post 251 was meant/directed at just the Christian sub-group. That is your error and problem, not mine. Also, in post 251 it doesn't specifically identify any person or group of persons that were excluded. Post 251 did by common-sense logic exclude persons that did not partake in injecting one of the four non-realities/mysticism into other people's minds.

Post #251 does exist and it says that those that teach their children commit hideous child abuse.

Back up that claim with facts or admit your error and correct it. Perhaps you meant to say that but more probable is that your mysticism-polluted mind has simple failed you and one symptom that has shown through is your carelessness -- carelessness that has gotten way out of hand.

Zon: Furthermore, you have carried on to considerable length to support your mind-spun fabrication via your rationalizations. 315

Thinking that Christians teach of a supernatural God is a mind-spun rationaization? LOL

The mind-spun fabrication you created and tried to support via your rationalizations was that post 251 was meant/directed at Christians.

Zon: Furthermore, you have carried on to considerable length to support your imagined, mind-spun fabrication with rationalizations. 315

Saying that Christians teach of a supernatural God is a mind-spun rationization? Give it up. You've lost this war. Post #251 is there for all to see.

I repeat, the mind-spun fabrication you created and tried to support via your rationalizations was that post 251 was meant/directed at Christians.

I put forth an analogy. Two weeks ago a Washington Post reporter created a mind-spun fabrication. He wrote that in a speech President Bush said that it was Senate Democrats that were stalling Homeland Security. That is, the Washington Post writer claimed that President Bush's comment was meant/directed at the Senate Democrats sub-group.  When in fact President Bush said that it was the Senators (the whole group identified) that were stalling Homeland Security.

Hundreds of Freepers jumped on that mind-spun fabrication that the Washington Post reporter had created. A few other news sources had articles in their printed papers and online articles that claimed the same as the Washington Post article.

Several articles that weren't liberal-biased were posted on FreeRepublic. In those articles the writers pointed out the mind-spun fabrication in the Washington Post article and other articles that claimed the same.

It was clear to virtually every Freeper who read one or more of those non-liberal-biased articles that at best it was an error and at worst, intentional deception via mind-spun fabrication. Considering the liberal bias in the news outlets that reported the mind-spun fabrication as truth, the vast majority of Freepers took the position that it was a deliberate deception being foisted on the readers of those news outlets.

Again, the Washington Post writer's mind-spun fabrication that he created was that President Bush meant/directed his comment at the Senate Democrat sub-group -- when in fact, President Bush meant/directed his comment at the Senate which is inclusive of all Senators.

#3Fan: You say that Christians have a tendency toward child abuse. 272

#3Fan: Zon got all self-righteous accusing Christians of the evil of child abuse. 276

#3Fan, you created a problem for yourself that need not exist in the first place. Then, rather than correcting the problem you expanded it into a much bigger problem, considerably worse than making a mere error.

Perhaps you recall what I said in post 296: "When making errors, it is always the person that makes the error that benefits the most by correcting his or her own errors."

I will now add: the worst thing a person can do with an error is to compound it. For it makes it that much more difficult to correct the larger problem/error.

As one poster said to you: "Failure to substantiate or explain your claims will create the impression of dishonesty in many people's minds." 282

#3Fan, you have had more than ample opportunity to correct your error. Still, you can admit your error and correct it. An error that goes beyond a mere error. A mere error is an "innocent" error that every person is prone to make from time to time. You've compounded your problem to where it appears clear that you've attempted to foist deliberate deception on the readers of this thread.

A word of advice, suck it up and be honest and you'll benefit the most. A side benefit is that you'll likely regain credibility in the eyes of others.

326 posted on 10/14/2002 3:15:19 PM PDT by Zon
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To: Zon
It isn't relevant because post 251 identified all people who partake in injecting one of the four non-realities/mysticism into other people's minds. You claimed that post 251 was meant/directed at just Christians and Christianity.

No I didn't. Where?

Post 251 was not meant/directed to single out the sub-group of Christians or any other sub-group. No where have you said that in post 251 I meant/directed it to single out any other sub-group. No where have you said that I meant/directed it to identify all the people in the largest group. You claimed that post 251 was meant/directed at the Christian sub-group.

Of course it was. They are believers and teachers of a supernatural God. But they aren't the only ones.

If I had meant/directed post 251 at Christians and or Christianity I would have made that clear.

You said those that teach and believe in a supernatural God commit hideous child abuse. That includes Christians. There's no getting around that.

I repeat, you claimed that post 251 was meant/directed at just the Christian sub-group.

No I didn't. Show me where I did.

That is your error and problem, not mine. Also, in post 251 it doesn't specifically identify any person or group of persons that were excluded. Post 251 did by common-sense logic exclude persons that did not partake in injecting one of the four non-realities/mysticism into other people's minds.

Boloney. You're screwed anyway because most Christians speak of the other three anyway.

Back up that claim with facts or admit your error and correct it.

Post #251 says that those that teach of a supernatural God commit hideous child abuse.

I repeat, the mind-spun fabrication you created and tried to support via your rationalizations was that post 251 was meant/directed at Christians.

It was directed at those that teach of a supernatural God which includes Christians, of course.

I put forth an analogy. Two weeks ago a Washington Post reporter created a mind-spun fabrication. He wrote that in a speech President Bush said that it was Senate Democrats that were stalling Homeland Security. That is, the Washington Post writer claimed that President Bush's comment was meant/directed at the Senate Democrats sub-group. When in fact President Bush said that it was the Senators (the whole group identified) that were stalling Homeland Security.

Some were stalling, some weren't. You're problem is that you said that those that teach of a supernatural God commit hideous child abuse and that includes all Christians.

Again, the Washington Post writer's mind-spun fabrication that he created was that President Bush meant/directed his comment at the Senate Democrat sub-group -- when in fact, President Bush meant/directed his comment at the Senate which is inclusive of all Senators.

And your comment was meant against those that teach of a supernatural God, which includes all Christians.

#3Fan, you created a problem for yourself that need not exist in the first place. Then, rather than correcting the problem you expanded it into a much bigger problem, considerably worse than making a mere error.

You're the one with the problem as the bystander has pointed out. You made your comment and now you don't have the guts to retract it nor admit to it, which is amazing considering it's there for all to see.

As one poster said to you: "Failure to substantiate or explain your claims will create the impression of dishonesty in many people's minds." 282

Yeah, the guy that endorsed your claim that God worshippers commit child abuse. LOL

3Fan, you have had more than ample opportunity to correct your error. Still, you can admit your error and correct it. An error that goes beyond a mere error. A mere error is an "innocent" error that every person is prone to make from time to time. You've compounded your problem to where it appears clear that you've attempted to foist deliberate deception on the readers of this thread.

Too late buddy you lose. You said God worshippers commit hideous child abuse. That includes Christians and there's no way for you to escape that fact.

A word of advice, suck it up and be honest and you'll benefit the most. A side benefit is that you'll likely regain credibility in the eyes of others.

Be honest and own up to your post #251.

I got some questions that I bet you don't have the guts to answer:

1: Do you believe that Christians practice mysticism?
2: Do you believe that those who teach their children mysticism commit child abuse in so doing?
3: Do you believe Christians commit child abuse when they teach about God to their children?

Let's see you worm out of these questions. LOL

328 posted on 10/14/2002 4:17:48 PM PDT by #3Fan
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