I don't know what Zon posted, and I cannot answer for him. But I never accused Christians in general of child abuse, your libel to the contrary notwithstanding.
You don't believe in God, so what is the crime of murdering someone?
You're telling me that if you hadn't once read that God said "Thou shalt not kill," you'd be shooting people down on the streets? You really need God for that? That's sad.
Once the person is erased from existence, the harm is over and done with.
Actually, if you look at it that way, then atheism really places a much higher value on human life. A good, solid Christian dies, and who cares? He or she'll just spend eternity eating pealed grapes inside the Pearly Gates. An atheist dies, and that's it. If you've lived your life well, great. If not, that's it - you've blown it. But there's nobody around to bail you out.
Stalin, Hitler, China, Cuba, Pol Pot. Who was worse than that lineup?
Hitler wasn't an atheist.
That was done by a few that were empowering themselves by protraying themselves as Godly.
What are you talking about? Who the heck portrayed themselves as "Godly" during the Thirty Years War?
The bad thing is that literate atheists will support the likes of Stalin
Um, no. Stalinists support Stalin. Atheism isn't a political philosophy.
literate Christians removed the murderous Christians from their power structures.
Which explains how Christian Europe has been such a pacific paradise the last five hundred years?
Zon has posted his response. Apparently, neither of us accused anybody of abusing children. Failure to substantuate or explain your claims will create the impression of dishonesty in many people's minds.
Post #253:
Zon:Flying reindeer towing a fat man in a sleigh, an Easter bunny, tooth fairy and supernatural God. Such mysticism injected into innocent little minds striving to accurately identify reality in their formative years. Often looking up to their parents to confirm whether or not they have accurately identified reality. Those young innocent children betrayed in the name of fun and love. What causes such hideous child abuse? Mysticism: the number-one disease of the conscious mind.
Andy: You say it a lot better than I can.
But I never accused Christians in general of child abuse, your libel to the contrary notwithstanding.
Zon did and you high-fived him in post #253.
You're telling me that if you hadn't once read that God said "Thou shalt not kill," you'd be shooting people down on the streets? You really need God for that? That's sad.
No, I wouldn't, but a person that thinks that there isn't a higher power to answer to would more likely see no harm in it as Stalin and Hitler obviously proved.
Actually, if you look at it that way, then atheism really places a much higher value on human life. A good, solid Christian dies, and who cares? He or she'll just spend eternity eating pealed grapes inside the Pearly Gates. An atheist dies, and that's it. If you've lived your life well, great. If not, that's it - you've blown it. But there's nobody around to bail you out.
But the problem is that your atheists didn't pass the test, they murdered 60 million in the 20th century. You say that since atheists don't murder people that their better than Christians because God holds Christians back, but atheists set records for murder in the 20th century so it appears atheists aren't better than Christians.
Hitler wasn't an atheist.
Hitler used Catholicism like Clinton used his preachers for photo ops. Have you forgotten the bible burning in Germany?
What are you talking about? Who the heck portrayed themselves as "Godly" during the Thirty Years War?
People who fool people into believing they're godly and then commence to steal and murder are were using the fact that the populace couldn't read the bible for themselves to not fall into their trap. When literacy expanded, the people that were murdering in the name of God lost their power. Since then it's been mostly atheists that have committed massive amounts of genocide.
Um, no. Stalinists support Stalin. Atheism isn't a political philosophy.
Athism has been an intregral part of communism. Tens of millions have died because of it.
Which explains how Christian Europe has been such a pacific paradise the last five hundred years?
Those wars were fought for power, not religion. Atheists love power. It's all they have to live for.