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Police source: Manassas bullet was a .223
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Posted on 10/10/2002 1:04:08 PM PDT by kregger

Police source: Manassas bullet was a .223

A police source says preliminary indications are that the bullet that killed a Maryland man at a Manassas gas station last night was the same type round used in eight sniper attacks.

Kari Pugh The Free Lance-Star A law-enforcement source said this afternoon that a Maryland man killed in Manassas appears to have been shot with the same kind of bullet used in eight sniper attacks in the Washington area.

At a news conference this afternoon, Prince William County authorities would say only that ballistics tests are being done. But the source, who asked not to be named, said preliminary indications are that it was a .223-caliber round.

Dean Harold Meyers, 53, of Gaithersburg, Md., was gunned down last night as he prepared to fill his tank at a gas station in Manassas. An autopsy showed he was killed by a single shot to his upper body.

Prince William Police Chief Charlie T. Deane said today that the shooting appears consistent with other sniper attacks in the eight days. Six people were killed in Montgomery County, Md., and Washington Oct. 2 and 3. A 43-year-old mother of two was shot in the back outside the Spotsylvania Mall Friday and a 13-year-old boy was critically wounded as he walked to school in Bowie, Md., Monday.

The Spotsylvania victim went home from the hospital Tuesday. The student remained hospitalized today.

Police are looking for a white panel van, possibly a Dodge Caravan, that was seen speeding away towards Interstate 66 shortly after the 8:18 p.m. shooting in Manassas. State police closed the interstate temporarily and Prince William police launched a wide dragnet for the shooter, but he remains at large.

Police said they found some evidence near the scene, but they are not saying exactly what it is. Deane did say, that it was not a message from the killer.

Deane, however, had a message of his own for the gunman: “Turn yourself in, enough damage has been done.”

Prince William Commonwealth’s Attorney Paul Ebert said if the killing is the work of the sniper, and if the gunman is caught alive, he will seek the death penalty.

“I’ve never seen an investigation as intense, thorough and far-reaching,” Ebert said. “Sooner or later we will bring this person to justice.”


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To: DugwayDuke; wardaddy
In short, the slower twist barrels with the old 55 grain fmj 5.56mm slug made much more damaging wounds out to its max range of =-400 yards from an unscoped M-16.

The fast twist barrel shooting the new 62 grain AP rounds is more accurate, out to +-600 yards, and penetrates very well against helmets and vests, but tends to make a neat "knitting needle" wound which is not an instant man stopper as they discovered in Somalia.

However, in civilian use, a hot .223 HOLLOWPOINT is going to just tear a person up, as we have seen with 7 out of 10 dead.

61 posted on 10/10/2002 8:50:26 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
Yep.
62 posted on 10/11/2002 8:47:56 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Travis McGee
Can you explain real quick the difference between a .22 and a .223. The size of the round is similar, but what differentiates them?
63 posted on 10/18/2002 7:27:41 AM PDT by Huck
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To: Huck
Usually when folks say ".22" they are referring to .22 rimfire, sometimes written .22LR for the most common type, .22 long rifle. They also come in shorts and longs and a few other sizes based on case length, powder, and slug weight in grains and type, round nose, hollow point etc. The most common .22 would be a .22LR firing a 40 grain soft lead round nosed slug at about 1,050 fps out of a typical rifle. The entire cartridge, slug and brass case, is about one inch long. The case is just side enough for the .22 slug to fit, it does not widen out. The primer is in the rim, hence rimfire. Anywhere the striker hits the rim, it fires.

What the sniper is shooting is also generically speaking a ".22 caliber", but it is a centerfire cartridge with a separate primer installed in the bottom of the case. The case expands outwards from the neck in the shape of a bottle to hold much more powder. The M-16 and AR-15s etc typically fire a 50 to 65 grain slug at from 2900 to 3200 fps depending on the load. At these extreme velocities the wounding and killing power is MANY times greater than the 1000 fps .22LR.

There are other ".22 calibers" even larger in case size than the .223 the DC sniper is using, which push rounds up near to 4,000 fps. These are generally used for varmint hunting and target competition.

64 posted on 10/18/2002 9:56:33 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
Thanks.
65 posted on 10/18/2002 11:22:14 AM PDT by Huck
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To: Huck
Any time.
66 posted on 10/18/2002 2:15:40 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee Can you explain real quick the difference between a .22 and a .223. The size of the round is similar, but what differentiates them? 63 posted on 10/18/02 7:27 AM Pacific by Huck

Well, see, the diameter of the .22 and the .223 are similar, but the .223 is a much longer bullet (ergo, much more massive) and is propelled by a frickin' insane powder charge, and...

oh, fuhgettaboutit. Enough with my babbling. Here you go...

Picture's worth a thousand words.

67 posted on 10/18/2002 10:33:54 PM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
You're right. The picture tells the story. Thanks.
68 posted on 10/19/2002 9:36:04 AM PDT by Huck
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