Posted on 10/10/2002 9:08:59 AM PDT by GaryMontana
For your information, I have been closely following this story for 2 years now, I did not just learn about it like you did.
You are the one talking about "blaming the victims", I never mentioned any such words.
Each one of us makes a decision on how to live, and whether or not we will ever protect ourselves if and when these kinds of situations come up. Those that willingly and freely choose to decide to not defend themselves, who choose to not own or carry a gun, do so deliberately.
To say that at the very last minute of your life, just after you were forced to commit sodomy and just before you were about to be murdered, you wish you had a gun, and that you now would like the opportunity to stop what is about to be done to you, is foolish, stupid, and pitiful. To live in a world populated by these types of criminals, to live in a world full of Ted Bundys and to consiously and deliberately take no measures at all to prevent the same kind of thing from happening to you, is your choice, but dont come crying to me.
You are free to decide to not defend yourself, but dont complain when I dont sit and whine with you about the terrible things that bad people do to others.
Grow up, and live with YOUR the personal life decisions that YOU make.
If you dont want to carry insurance, if you dont save money, if you dont keep a loaded gun handy, if you dont wear your seatbelt, that is up to you, but quit trying to cry on my shoulder and get my sympathy for YOUR poor and stupid decisions.
You yourself have to take responsiblity for yourself and for the defense of yourself,or accept whatever happens to you without crying to others for sympathy, and pity because you were so defenseless and could not do anything to stop it. You were too terrified and afraid to rush these murderers and have a fighting chance to live.
I got news for you, there are more bad people out there, and these kinds of things will happen again, and they may happen to you, they will happen to someone. If you continue to live defenseless, go ahead, but dont plead for us to cry with you.
You just lost your last dollar, I carry a gun, and also keep them handy in my home. I believe I would fare quite well. My kinds of people would not be taken to a deserted park to be sodomized. We would fight. My kinds of people shoot those kinds of scum.
You truely live in a fairy tale land if you think these evil criminals were going to be "nicer" to the vicitms once they got them in a deserted isolated place. Anybody else that agrees with you, remains unarmed, and goes with people like these murderers to be sodomized, should not expect to be treated any better than these young people were.
Yes,I have heard of Dodge City, and Witchita, parts of my family settled Kansas in the 1860's, Newton, Ellsworth, etc . and I also had family relatives that lived down the road next to the Earp brothers parents homestead between Newton and Witchita. My great grandaddy was personal friends and neighbors with the Earp and Masterson families.
Wasnt Dodge City one of the very first cities in the United States where law abiding citizens allowed themselves to be willingly disarmed by gun control?
You need to learn more about the history of Kansas, and the early history of gun control and the first citizens who gave up their rights of self defense.
These animals need to be skinned alive........slowly.
Then, after we're done with Jackson and Sharpton.......these perps need to be skinned alive.......and then peeled apart, muscle by muscle.
They also could have all run away screaming in different directions when they were walking in the lot going to the car. They could have driven the car into another car and crashed on the highway, etc. etc.
One of them could have jumped thru and into the window of their neighbors apartment as they were walking outside to the car,
There were other opportunities also to either escape, or refuse to be taken away from the apartment complex.
These young people were completely trusting of the murderers and had no intention, nor inclination , of fighting back, of running away, or of just in general of being prepared to live in this world.
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