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To: TopQuark
Clearly RCW2001 has an "agenda", but I see no reason why his posts shouldn't be allowed on FR. It's not like he's posting stuff from neo-Nazi rags -- this is a Reuters wire service article. We read lots of good stuff about Jews and Israelis here; why should the negative news be censored?
10 posted on 10/09/2002 7:18:22 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Thank you for your thoughtful reply, GovernmentShrinker. However, you have misunderstood me, as many others in the past when I spoke of this. We all are so tired of censorship, that we might be all too quick to see it everywhere.

I was not trying to sensor a topic, a post, or words. Not only this is not my personal forum, I do believe that words should be countered with words.

If you reread my post, you will find that I was speaking of something else. This is a discussion forum, and articles --- from whatever sources -- are posted for discussion. IF you observe for a while, you will find that RCW2001 does not participate in ANY of the anti-Israeli or anti-Jewish threads he starts. This is not an agenda: agenda is a something that one DESIREs, or plans for, to occur. This is BEHAVIOR. And this behavior, in my opinion, is use of FR for personal purposes, contrary to those stated by Robinson.

Your remark amounts to "we can learn something form everyone." Fine, let's learn. Let RCW2001 tell us what he/she thinks. That is what I am talking about.

Instead, she/he shoots for something else. A small contingent on FR that sees the Joooos as the culprit of all evil in America and the world comes to these posts like bees to honey. They will elevate whatever truth about an individual Jew to all Jews: for millennia that was the favorite twist of anti-Semites. "See, I am a good person, I am. I am not against people in general, but, as you can see, them Jooos really deserve punishment." So, if you find one Jewish criminal --- they are all criminal. If one rabbi said something extreme- ---- that's what all Jews and Judaism are all about.

Just look at the post of BushMeister above: not that we caught three Israeli thugs, we should not feel bad about the suffering of the Jewish people as recently and terribly as in the Holocaust. Then, of course, FReepers with conscience, whether Jews or Gentiles, point out that criticism of individual Jews is just that --- criticism, but elevating it to the evil of the entire race is anti-Semitism. This is a discussion of what, exactly? What do we leant from this? That Holocaust, which is denied openly by posters like LarryLied, actually happened.

Most of these threads deteriorate in this manner. And, where is RCW2001 amidst all of this? Nowhere to be found. Never a participant in his own threads.

In sum, GovernmentShrinker, I am not against a topic of discussion. I am against RCW2001 using people's conscience to promote a fight and to promote anti-Semitism. This is against the stated by Jim Robinson policy, but those that violate it seem to be condoned. He is the boss; let him decide. All I did was to attract your attention. It is for you to decide whether this behavior and, essentially, manipulation of you and me by RCW2001, is OK with you.

17 posted on 10/10/2002 6:41:19 AM PDT by TopQuark
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To: GovernmentShrinker
We read lots of good stuff about Jews and Israelis here; why should the negative news be censored?

Since this poster never explains his posts, but continually posts negative stories about Jews, I believe that we are entitled to draw our own conclusion. If there is some reason for posting this article except to insinuate "Jews = Criminals," some point he is trying to make about an issue, the poster ought to have told us what it is. Since he hasn't, he has only himself to blame if he is viewed by civilized people as an antisemitic crackpot.

I don't make any assumptions about your own views, since I don't remember encountering you on FR before, but the phrasing of your remark (copied in above) is a little troublesome to me. This article is not "negative news" about Jews. It is negative news about Nachshow Sinvanni, Ofir Lebar, and Ofir Weizman, who are, as it happens, Jews. For this to be negative news about Jews, there would have to be some link between the criminal behavior of these men and the fact that they are Jews.

That is, I fear, what the poster is trying to insinuate, but I hope you will not, in the immortal words of Dan Ackroyd in Dragnet, let him drag you down into his private hell.

41 posted on 10/17/2002 6:41:29 PM PDT by Southern Federalist
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