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Gunman Doesn't Conform to Usual Patterns (Maryland Sniper)
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| October 9, 2002
| Patricia Davis, Carol Morello
Posted on 10/09/2002 2:27:11 PM PDT by pttttt
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No ****, Sherlock! Thank you Washington Post for pointing out the all too obvious several days late.
And is a .223 - lethal as it has been - considered "high powered"?
Their use of "weapon" instead of "rifle" is interesting here, suggesting they may be thinking Contender or the like. It would throw things off if the killer is switching barrels.
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posted on
10/09/2002 2:27:12 PM PDT
by
pttttt
To: pttttt
Patricia Davis and Carol Morello need to return to the educational system and pass third grade...
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posted on
10/09/2002 2:32:00 PM PDT
by
Vidalia
To: pttttt
His motive is to instill fear in the community don't you think? It's a power issue. He is random for a reason, so in that sense he is not random.
To: pttttt; okie01
"and no exclusive geographic area for his killings."
What the heck? Of course he does - that area in Maryland. His first shot was a "miss" at a Michaels store. Just hit a window. The only "outside the geographic profile" incident "just happened" to be another Michaels store, in Virginia. Out of some twisted purpose, to settle accounts in his mind, to give himself a sense of completion, to correct a sense of failure, he looked up Michaels in a telephone book, or on line, and found the Virginia store. Or perhaps he remembered it from driving past it.
He's from that Maryland area.
But, hey, what do I know? I thought if the Anthrax letters were mailed in Princeton NJ, and showed a return city address and zipcode from central NJ, the perp would have a familiarity with the area that could only be gained by residing there for a time. Turns out the perp was a middle aged guy in Maryland named Hatfill. < /sarcasm>
That being said, the sniper may now expand his area due to surveillance pressure. that maybe where he makes a getaway mistake, and gets caught.
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posted on
10/09/2002 2:53:33 PM PDT
by
Shermy
To: pttttt
And is a .223 - lethal as it has been - considered "high powered"?
Their use of "weapon" instead of "rifle" is interesting here, suggesting they may be thinking Contender or the like. It would throw things off if the killer is switching barrels.
I guess it's fair to call a .223 "high-powered" since they do pretty well at HP rifle matches.
I think you're reading too much into the word "weapon." I think the reporters used it since it sounds more sinister than "rifle." Given the lack of firearms knowledge that these newstwinkies possess, I think that the idea of a switch-barreled firearm is beyond their comprehension. Except that they are evil assault weapons used by crazed NRA members to kill innocent children. <\sarcasm>
To: pttttt
Terrorism cannot be ruled out, but there is no evidence that it is the motivation, Fox said. Terrorists generally advance an agenda, and "we don't know what his agenda is," he said. How 'bout having terrorized the entire National Capitol region?
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posted on
10/09/2002 3:10:03 PM PDT
by
Plutarch
To: pttttt
Are the areas where the sniper has shot been areas that limit or forbid CCW's? Is he shooting in places he knows no one will (or can legally) shoot back?
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posted on
10/09/2002 3:19:24 PM PDT
by
elbucko
To: pttttt
Even the NRA considers the .223 to be "highpower", which includes almost any centerfire rifle.
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posted on
10/09/2002 3:22:20 PM PDT
by
Dead Dog
To: Dead Dog
Show me the text where NRA says a 223 is a high powered bullet. It may be higher fps, but not elephant gun power.
To: elbucko
This state does not allow CCW. The sniper knows that honest american citizens in this state do not carry arms.
To: pttttt
No, the .223 is not "high powered", and the killer is not a "sniper". I've seen PAC clerks, cooks, linguists and other REMFs hit targets consistently at 140 yards, which evidently the shooter hit the kid from. Start hitting your target from >600 yards, and then I'll start using the term "sniper".
Scouts out! Cavalry Ho!
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posted on
10/09/2002 4:13:46 PM PDT
by
wku man
To: CHICAGOFARMER
Show me the text where NRA says a 223 is a high powered bullet. It may be higher fps, but not elephant gun power.So I guess you wouldn't mind being shot in the foot with one, right? ;^)
dan
To: wku man
seen PAC clerks, cooks, linguists and other REMFs hit targets consistently at 140 yards, which evidently the shooter hit the kid from. Start hitting your target from >600 yards, and then I'll start using the term "sniper".sniper
n.
- A skilled military shooter detailed to spot and pick off enemy soldiers from a concealed place.
- One who shoots at other people from a concealed place.
To: wku man
I read that they found a tarot card with a message on it and a shell casing. It is more than obvious that the tarot card was deliberately placed there for the police to find. Seems to me that the shell casing would also have been placed there for the police to find. If he did that, it makes me think that he is not shooting a .223. There are a LOT of cartridges that shoot a 0.224"OD bullet other than the .223. They just probably jumped on that one because the .223 is chambered in dreaded "assault rifles".
To: wku man
I agree. If you are basically coordinated, it doesn't take that much expertise to hit things with a rifle. I've only tried clay pigeons a couple of times, but I hit about half of them the first time I tried. With a stationary target, all you do is get a bead and squeeze the trigger.
When I went through basic training, most people figured out how to fire their weapons after a time or two at the rifle range even though they'd never fired anything before. It isn't rocket science.
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posted on
10/09/2002 5:11:48 PM PDT
by
Cicero
To: FrustratedCitizen
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To: wku man; CHICAGOFARMER
.223's are used in NRA High Power Rifle Matches and they are listed in the rule books.
The targets are at 200, 300 and 600 yards. I use the same load at the 200 as I do at the 600 yards. This is all done with iron sights and the x ring at 600 is only 6 inches across.
In the service rifle category the other rifles that are legal are the 1903, the M1 Garand and the M14/M1A.
To: jim_trent
The amount of damage to the victims may be consistant with a .223 Remington. The 13 year old was shot in the left side and the bullet stopped just under the surface of the right side. That sounds like a .223.
To: wku man; Squantos
Start hitting your target from >600 yards, and then I'll start using the term sniper. A real sniper is better defined by the targets he selects: high-value enemy personnel or equipment, preferably at a critical time. Taking out a key officer, a satellite dish or other piece of commo gear or crew-served weapon is the mark of a sniper, not the distance from which he engages his carefully-selected targets or the equipment he uses.
A trained sniper with the average grunt's issue weapon is still a sniper; an untrained rookie with the sniper's weapon is still just an amateur, though he may learn. But by picking unarmed ant-people not even trusted by their own government with weapons with which to fight back, the Maryland shooter has shown he's not much of a real sniper. He's shooting drones and pawns.
-archy-/-
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posted on
10/10/2002 11:39:20 AM PDT
by
archy
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