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Yoko Ono approves song for movie about gun violence
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Posted on 10/09/2002 1:36:41 PM PDT by hoosierskypilot

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:34:51 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Today would have been John Lennon's 62nd birthday. And on Friday, his widow is giving a little gift to filmmaker Michael Moore.

It's "Happiness Is a Warm Gun," a track from the Beatles' White Album. Yoko Ono herself made sure that Moore could have "Gun" for his celebrated documentary about gun violence, Bowling for Columbine. United Artists opens the film Friday in New York and Los Angeles, and in more cities on Oct. 18.


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TOPICS: Activism/Chapters
KEYWORDS: bowling; columbine; happiness; michaelmoore; warmgun; yoko
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To: spinneyhead
If it's easy for an honest citizen to get a gun, then it's easy for a criminal to get one as well. I know there are background checks, but hasn't the NRA been campaigning against making these more stringent?

Once again, you are not understanding the criminal mind. Criminals do not submit themselves to background checks, only the law-abiding do, which makes the background checks rather useless.

I'll bet there are a lot of disputes etcetera in America that escalate unnecessarily to gun use simply because almost anyone can get a gun.

That is exceedingly rare in cases where the shooter is a non-criminal with a legal gun. Criminals and crazies shoot people over an argument. Good citizens do not.

42 posted on 10/09/2002 3:09:14 PM PDT by dead
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To: spinneyhead
You haven't exactly said this flat out, but I get the impression that you are operating under the premise that it is difficult for a criminal to obtain a gun if they are made illegal.

I think that is a faulty premise and I'll give you a couple reasons why. To begin, I think it says quite a lot that two countries that have made guns illegal have the highest violent crime rate. It's true we don't know what the "gun crime" rate is, but I think it is generally fair to infer that most violent crime is accomplished with a gun.

Second, I think the ease of access of an illegal item is quite high. While it's true I can't walk down to Wal-Mart and buy an eight ball, I can obtain one with extreme ease. I would contend this would also extend to guns.

As far as the NRA, I can't speak much to its position. I am not a member and I do not support the NRA, as they are on record supporting many gun laws. I advocate the complete repeal of all gun laws on the books. This is not a stance the NRA endorses.

As far as disputes that escalate, I don't think that's a valid argument for gun control. Yeah, there might well be, but obviously not as many as, say, England or Australia or any of the other 8 countries ahead of the United States on the violent crime list. All the same, I'd rather stick with the lower crime rate and roll the "escalation to a gun battle" dice. But that's just me.
43 posted on 10/09/2002 3:11:44 PM PDT by Viva Le Dissention
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To: spinneyhead
I'll bet there are a lot of disputes etcetera in America that escalate unnecessarily to gun use simply because almost anyone can get a gun.

Here's one problem. You sound like you are assuming, guessing and betting rather than looking at the facts. Show us some cites that suggest unarmed citizens are less likely to experience violent crime than armed citizens. Any cites at all. Until then, you're really fighting unarmed, so to speak, cuz the facts don't support your contention that you are safer in England than the US.

44 posted on 10/09/2002 3:12:03 PM PDT by ibbryn
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To: dead
It doesn’t. Michael Jackson/Sony own the publishing rights to the songs, not the actual Beatle recordings.

Thanks for the clarification!

45 posted on 10/09/2002 3:17:55 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
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46 posted on 10/09/2002 3:18:24 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: spinneyhead
I'll bet there are a lot of disputes etcetera in America that escalate unnecessarily to gun use simply because almost anyone can get a gun.

How do you think that people settled disputes before guns came along, with feather pillows? Would you next want to have knife control?

47 posted on 10/09/2002 3:18:29 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: spinneyhead
It is written EVERYWHERE, chap. Besides, there is not ONE city, state, or country, that has strict gun control who's crime rate is LOWER than those without gun control. Why not read Joyce Lee Malcolm's GUNS & VIOLENCE..The British Experience

During the 2 years following the 1997 handgun ban in England, the use of handguns in crime rose 40%. During the first 7 months of 2001, armed robberies in London rose 53%. These are easily corroborated stats.The Mayor of London recently stated that he's safer in New York than London. When all is said & done, how do you feel SAFER not being able to protect yourself & your family?

Are law abiding citizens commiting this crimes? I think not. So, where does that leave us? It leaves us with only the criminals having guns. Control the criminal, NOT the gun. And, let me ask you this...if you or your loved ones were being savagely attacked, and I had my gun....would you want me to intervene? I think we both know the answer to that.

48 posted on 10/09/2002 3:33:42 PM PDT by Puppage
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To: Fighter@heart
Yep. Just finished reading that. I'm glad I'm a citizen, not a subject.
50 posted on 10/09/2002 3:38:54 PM PDT by Puppage
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To: hoosierskypilot
Besides, as any Beatle fan knows...this song has NOTHING to do with guns. It's about heroin. Guns are a euphemism for heroin. Just thought I'd set the record straight.
51 posted on 10/09/2002 3:40:34 PM PDT by Puppage
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To: Paul Atreides
Would you next want to have knife control?

Don't laugh...there's been serious debate of just that in Australia.

52 posted on 10/09/2002 3:43:15 PM PDT by Puppage
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To: Puppage
I'm sure spiney, if he's honest, will tell you that England already has knife control. Hasn't helped the violent crime rate there.
54 posted on 10/09/2002 3:45:21 PM PDT by ibbryn
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To: hoosierskypilot
Wasn't "Happiness is a Warm Gun" about shooting Heroin?

Strange, Yoko.....strange.

55 posted on 10/09/2002 3:48:02 PM PDT by Thumper1960
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To: ibbryn
Sure hasn't. It's even against the law in England to to kill an intruder if he enters your home & intends to do harm. The latest case is of a homeowner who killed (stabbed) one of the two intruders who broke into his home for the 7th time in a year. The intruder that was not killed is already out of jail. The homeowner is still IN jail. What's wrong with this picture?
56 posted on 10/09/2002 3:48:58 PM PDT by Puppage
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To: spinneyhead
It's an interesting statistic that you gave on violent crime involving guns--it was one I wasn't aware of and an interesting one indeed.

Given that it is such a small rate of the overall violent crime rate, are you of the contention, then, that by banning guns it would decrease the crime rate? This statistic seems to show that folks commit crimes regardless of whether they have a gun or not--that seems to defeat the principal argument of most of the gun control advocates. Of course, having just read it, I haven't given this serious thought and I might be missing a point or two.

I think, too, there will always be a demand for guns; as such, there will always be a supply. Whether the supply is through a means of legal production, or whether it is done through gun "smuggling," it will always be there.
57 posted on 10/09/2002 3:50:15 PM PDT by Viva Le Dissention
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To: Puppage
I knew it! Warm Gun, meaning that you're 'shooting up' Heroin that's been heated in the spoon.

Duh!....it's been a long week,

58 posted on 10/09/2002 3:51:29 PM PDT by Thumper1960
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To: Thumper1960
Ha ha ha. Don't feel too bad. I wasn't aware of that either until my wife (a John Lennon FREAK) looked over my shoulder at what I was writing & immediately set me straight.
59 posted on 10/09/2002 3:54:48 PM PDT by Puppage
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To: spinneyhead
If I could buy a gun and keep it in my bedside cabinet, how the hell do I know that he doesn't have one as well?

Spinney, the idea is that your gun is bigger than his.

And the idea is that you know how to hit a target, and that if you want to, you will hit it.

60 posted on 10/09/2002 4:09:14 PM PDT by IncPen
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