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To: mhking
Perhaps if you amended your message to not voting blindly, period, you'd get a better response.

You guys just don't get it...

It is YOU who are the sheeple ....

You step up to the ballot box and pull the lever knowing full well that you are not voting a differance of substance, but only a difference of degree.

It is you who blindly vote the party line, hoping that somehow, some way, this magnificant experiment in human government can be sustained.

It is YOU who listen blindly as lie after lie pours out of the mouths of our elected representatives, and then step back into the ballot box and pull the same damned lever again... and again... and again!!

You ought to be ashamed for trying to turn that on those of us who vote on principal.

89 posted on 10/09/2002 2:15:17 PM PDT by Beenliedto
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To: Beenliedto
You ought to be ashamed for trying to turn that on those of us who vote on principal.

What makes you think that we aren't voting on principle? Because we are voting Republican? Because we don't vote on a straight Libertarian ticket? I'm sorry, last I checked, I was the one who had to make my own informed decision after doing the appropriate research into the candidates in the race. I'm the one who gets to make the final decision. I'm the one who stands in the voting booth to make my own vote.

And I'll let you in on something. I supported Harry Browne. I voted for Harry Browne, not once, but twice. I thought I was making a statement on principle. Then Harry went off the deep end. Harry insisted that the war was not about saving lives when it is. Harry put on his tin foil hat, and the rest of the Libertarians rallied around him.

Well, you go right on ahead and rally. I'm done with the LP. Overall, the formal Libertarian party is only one step removed from Lyndon LaRouche and his fanatics.

Do I agree with everything said by the GOP? Of course not! Do I vote lock-step, straight GOP ticket? No, I vote by issue; by candidate. And I vote by who happens to hold the views I have.

But nooooo... You want to come in here and demand that everyone here vote Libertarian. You come in here and insist that because there are people who would rather work within the GOP, that they are plants by the party. You insist that because there are many here who feel that a vote for the LP is a vote wasted. I'll tell ya something. I don't feel that way.

But for you to come in here and lambaste everyone here in general and me in particular is simply out of line. This is a forum for the exchange of ideas and ideologies. This is not a forum for one person to come in and let loose with both barrels, simply because he wants to get his jollies by acting like a complete nincompoop.

Party line? It sounds like you are the one with the "party line." You are following the LP mantra: if anyone disagrees with you, shout them down; the LP is the "way of the future."

No, you have an agenda. No one here is "required" to think a certain way, contrary to your ranting and hand-wringing and whining and crying. You want to act a fool, go right on ahead. You ought to be ashamed of how downright stupid you sound. Go on. Go play. Have fun. The rest of adults are busy trying to bring about positive change to the country.

90 posted on 10/09/2002 2:36:21 PM PDT by mhking
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To: Beenliedto; mhking; rdb3
Ashamed?

I have voted striaght GOP (save for writing in Ollie North vis-a-vis John Warner in 1996 over Warner's backstabbing of Ollie) ever since I could vote. I have nothing to be ashamed of.

Furthermore, your shots at mhking and rdb3 are WAY off target - I'll admit I might not agree with them on everything, but "sheeple" is so far off target that it borders on slanderous.

We've seen third-party candidates only elect Dems. You ought to be ashamed for trying to lure other conservatives into "feel good" exercises that will do NOTHING to solve the problem, and in fact only make it worse.
91 posted on 10/09/2002 3:09:05 PM PDT by hchutch
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To: Beenliedto
You ought to be ashamed for trying to turn that on those of us who vote on principal.

Then you have pegged nearly 100% of the Bush bashers here on FR. They have admitted they voted for Bush because he was either:

1. A lesser of two evils
2. Anyone but Gore

So don't just throw out your admonishments without acknowledging that many of the angry conservatives on FR have only themselves to blame for not voting their principles.

108 posted on 10/09/2002 5:37:34 PM PDT by rintense
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