[Wolfstar]

Thanks for the thoughtful reply. I think yours is a very reasonable definition and is very close to my own point of view. Unfotunately, that nation began a slow decline during the Civil War, and has existed only in vestigal form since passage of the Income Tax nearly 100 years ago. We will never go back to that earlier version of our nation. It just isn't going to happen. So the best we can do is try to hold the line against creeping national and global Socialism.

[B. A. Conservative]

"We will never go back to that earlier version of our nation. It just isn't going to happen. So the best we can do is try to hold the line against creeping national and global Socialism."

If we can't go back and accepting socialism is perceived as the only viable alternative, then getting out of the way, preserving your own capital base even if it means leaving the country, and letting this behemoth collapse under its one weight is the better solution. And the sooner the United States disintegrates the better. There is real hope that some of the regional republics that will arise from the ashes will offer constitutional republics modeled after the original US Constitution.

I said before that I would never again vote for a Democrat. On reconsideration, at the moment in time when I think we can't turn the clock back, then attempting to fast forward the collapse could well become desirable. Voting for democrats could be expected to hasten the demise of the United States and would become something for those who desire freedom to consider.