Posted on 10/09/2002 1:57:31 AM PDT by kattracks
TRENTON, N.J. (AP) -- Democrats long used to getting heavy support from New Jersey's black voters are shutting blacks out from top political decisions and ignoring their concerns, activists charged.
Black church and community leaders said Democrats should not expect blacks to vote lockstep with party leaders, especially after the shake-up in the Senate race.
They said community leaders felt shut out of the party decision to replace Sen. Robert Torricelli, who resigned as a candidate after months of talk about his personal ethics.
Leaders also said they were troubled by McGreevey's demand that Amiri Baraka, who is black, resign as state poet laureate after some claimed a Sept. 11 memorial poem was offensive and anti-Semetic.
McGreevey and legislators have promised swift action on bills that would allow the governor to fire Baraka and cut him from his two-year, $10,000 appointment.
Sen. Ronald L. Rice, D-Essex, was one of several legislators who said he was disappointed that more black party leaders were not consulted about the legislation, or about the selection of a new U.S. Senate candidate last week.
"We don't want to be a bunch of placeholders," Rice said. "I'm a good Democrat but I also believe I've earned the right to disagree."
The Rev. Reginald Jackson, executive director of the Black Ministers Council, said party leaders want blacks to vote, but offer them no reasons to support them after the election ends.
"It's insulting, it's demeaning and believe it or not younger African Americans are not toeing that line," he said. "And I think those who are going to expect us to be there in the future are in for a rude awakening."
Gov. James E. McGreevey, a Democrat, refused to discuss issues involving the senate selection process and concerns raised by black voters on Tuesday.
Walter Fields, a Democratic political consultant, said blacks are being shut out because Democrats have determined they risk losing no political support in the black community if they exclude blacks from decisions.
Blacks now have no leverage as a voting group because they consistently support Democrats and give no sign of changing, Fields said.
That allows mostly white power brokers to assume support from black voters without offering anything, or helping blacks into positions where they can become statewide candidates, he said.
"You not only don't have a guy on the short list, you're not even in the room when the decision is going to be made," Fields said. "Then you're told to vote for this person just because you're a Democrat."
Dissent between black voters and Democrats in New Jersey mirrors similar disputes in other states that have been going on for decades, political scientists and analysts said.
"Is one of those underlying issues that often affect race relations in general," said David Bositis, a senior analyst at the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies in Washington. "There are people and issues and decisions that involve African Americans and their leaders and there's often a white political leadership that doesn't take into consideration and consult with and listen to African Americans."
Roger Wilkins, a professor at George Mason University, said blacks who weren't consulted have a major complaint if the party is depending on black voters to save the Senate seat.
But black voters must realize what party leaders faced trying to replace Torricelli, who quit with five weeks to go, Wilkins said.
"They didn't want it to be ragged, they wanted to get Torricelli behind them and they wanted a name and a face that was credible," he said.
Not all black leaders are worried.
"I think it's at least a non-issue. It's an issue to divide the Democratic party and to bring some doubt among our black leadership," said the Rev. Stanley Justice, another member of the Black Ministers Council.
Copyright 2002 Associated Press. All rights reserved.
That thought just made my day!
Friend, I tend to agree with you but I have a question or two to ask. Ehrlich is running for Gov. in MD. He has Mike Steele - a black conservative - for his running mate. What happens, if after the race, he does not get the 10-20% you are asking for?Then we try again. Then we work again. And again, and again. And rather than 10-20%, take a look at any increase over 2000 as a victory, albeit a small one. It'll take a lot of small victories to add up over time.
Did you hear the tape of Harry Belafonte on Hannity and Colmes last night, where he basically called Colin Powell a house n*****, a term from slavery days? Now you have C Rice and C Powell in two extremely important Cabinet position, as well as the Ed Sec. Do the majority of blacks view these three as tokens?Yes - I've got a link to the streaming audio version of the interview on my site. Some see Powell and Rice as ellouts" and "uncle toms" and "lawn jockies," much as they see Justice Clarence Thomas and others. All of us who happen to be black and conservative have been called those things repeatedly, and we continue to have those epithets tossed our way today.Friend, I watched the debate between Townsend and Ehrlich. I was disgusted with the way the NAACP crowd acted toward Ehrlich and his family. How can these people be taken seriously when they act like this? Hope to hear from you
We move on. We forge forward. The name-calling is an attempt at marginalization by the left. We rattle their cage. We challenge the very core of their belief structure. It is drummed in by the "black leadership" that anyone like myself who steps out of the lock-step march with anything as little as a "just wait a minute" is misguided at best; outright evil generally, and usually much worse. In their eyes, we are not even worthy of punishment in the seventh circle of Danté's Hell. In their eyes, we are the embodiment of evil - Keyser Soze, Hannibal Lechter, Ted Bundy and Osama bin Laden all rolled into one.
In the minds of the masses of lemmings, what the NAACP says is gospel from on high. As a result, the behavior exhibited by those at the Maryland debate is OK. The ad hominums that Harry Belafonte exhibited on the KFMB radio program are OK. Pictures like the one depicting Clarence Thomas as a "lawn jockey" ornament on an early 1990's edition of the now-defunct Emerge magazine are OK. Why? Because it's OK to ridicule "evil." And until that "evil" connotation is removed, it will continue to be open season on conservative blacks.
Ironically, as many will tell you, in one-on-one situations, away from the emotional group-speak/think, many middle class, mainstream blacks will find themselves agreeing with us on many points. But, as someone was quoted in the movie, "Barbershop," 'Better not let Jesse Jackson hear you saying that.'
With time, with work, with patience, more blacks will begin to say 'F*** Jesse Jackson!" They will think for themselves. They will hear our message for what it is, and many will join us.
Depending on the audience and depending on the setting, I would say chances are about even. But that shouldn't dissuade us. I never said that the task would be easy. On the contrary - this is one of the most difficult tasks outside of the war effort that faces us in the near term. But it is one that we must undertake, lest we be dragged into the abyss by a team led by Al Gore and Al Sharpton.
I shudder at the thought.
Glad you brought that up! Check it, the chances are very close to 1 in probability that they would be booed off. Why? Because they are black!
Now let that marinate.
That has seasoned long enough.
The reason why they would be booed off is that non-Democrat blacks (unless they are flaming Black Nationalist marxists) are already marginalized in the average black person's mind. Therefore, they would be less inclined to listen from the giddy-up.
But there is a way around this. That way is for conservative whites to speak in ways that the so-called black "leadership" doesn't. In a stealth-like mode, this image would stun and intrigue. I don't have time to get into the particulars at the moment, but I promise that I'll return a little later with the ins and outs of this. You'll see what I mean.
I'm now off to my paper chase. Ummm... That's money for those of you in Palm Beach County.
Duh, you think?
Well, thank you for solving all the ills of the world. Thank you very much!
Now that you're done marginalizing all black people, do you want to get back to reality and the conversation at hand?
Talk about this subject and it will garner few posts. Now, let a thread be started about something silly a black person says or does and you better get out of the way! Those threads always get 100+ posts. This one won't.
Watch.
Closing in on 100, Dude!
As for your question, "why can't John and Jane Q. Freeper understand this?" all I can do is play armchair psychologist.
I think John and Jane are loyal to a distinct fault, and loathe to say anything that would imply criticism of Republican leadership, because we know the RNC is too timid to take conservatism directly to blacks.
Ironically, in their quiet, quivering fear, the RNC is guilty of what George W. Bush called "the soft bigotry of low expectations."
Very ironically.
It's happening on a grass-roots and very low level. There's no major national effort underway. But each of us who are conservative and black are moving in a small, even unwitting way.
As people see and hear us - politically active or otherwise - they are influenced. It took centuries for the trickle of the Colorado River to erode into the Grand Canyon. While I'm not waiting centuries, the analogy works. It all happens a little at a time. People see my writings - talk to me in person - hear me on the radio, and they stop to think. They ask questions. They move ever so slowly and ever so surely toward our camp.
It's happening in such a way that many do not see it. But it is happening.
The RNC doesn't know how to do much more than that.
You're right. They're afraid. Afraid of change on the parts of some. Afraid of stepping on toes on others. And yet, still more are afraid of anything they do being misconstrued.
Steps must be made. We will stumble. We will fall. But when we stumble and fall, we must get back up and step again, much as a baby learning to walk. In time we will succeed.
Can I suggest two?
1. Without insulting their intelligence.
2. With the assumption that Blacks want the same basic things for themselves and their families as whites do.
Nahhh... too risky! Democrats would be mean to us.
Are you ready for that?
Sorry, I can't type while I'm wringing my hands, as a loyal Republican soldier should.
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