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To: LostTribe
are you saying NOAH was a JEW?

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I gave you timeline of the shemites! Now Jacob/Israel tribes came afterwards, are you trying to be cute?

LT why would ask such a silly question? My point is that Jews were sea merchants too, as well as others.

To say Jews never had boats is ridiculous, now Phoenicians might have been master of the seas, but it is a stretch to think others had no ships.

81 posted on 10/09/2002 10:36:38 PM PDT by restornu
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To: restornu
>are you trying to be cute?

Not at all. Your answers continued to be so evasive I thought you were being the cutsey one. Isn't it easy to say NO when your answer is simply NO? Sure does simplify communication. {ggg}.

82 posted on 10/09/2002 10:56:51 PM PDT by LostTribe
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To: restornu
>... now Phoenicians might have been master of the seas, but it is a stretch to think others had no ships.

Of course it is a stretch, and I never inferred otherwise, did I.

But what complicates the vagueness of your prior answers just a tiny bit is that many historians think there were no viable Phoenicians left by the time a small number of Southern Kingdom Israelites began to be called Jews (~500 BC).  The Phoenicians reached the peak of their culture around l,000 BC, the same time David's Kingdom of Israel reached it's short zenith.

Of course there were no Jews during Davids time, only Israelites, and they had not yet even split into Northern and Southern Kingdoms.

83 posted on 10/09/2002 11:11:03 PM PDT by LostTribe
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To: restornu; LostTribe
"To say Jews never had boats is ridiculous, now Phoenicians might have been master of the seas, but it is a stretch to think others had no ships."

If Noah lived around the Black Sea, it would seem to me that boat/ship building would be commom knowledge.

Noah may have been a Tocharian or at least related, a proto-Celt, if you will.

And, another thing. If we consider that through-out history (and even in to today) 'bad' things have been called black, Black Monday, Black Plague and etc. Was there a point when the Black Sea was 'bad'? Could it have been at the height of the Ice Age when little or no water was flowing into it, and went stagnant and became the sea of death, Black Sea? (I know that the Black Sea had a name change, I just don't know when.)

88 posted on 10/10/2002 6:52:29 AM PDT by blam
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