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To: Theo
"Mormonism says that Hebrews came over to the continental US."

To clarify, we belive a few families left Jerusalem at about 600 BC and established a civilization in the americas that lasted untill about 400 AD. But they were not the only people around then. They also had groups leave with the intent to settle far off places, but they were never heard from again so their fate was unknown.

"I wonder if those who are suggesting the writing is authentic are Mormons. "

Certainly an interesting question to look at, but there isn't enough info in this article to say. When did paleo-Hebrew first come into usage? The Book of Mormon people had a period of lasting peace from about 33AD to 400 AD and there isn't a lot more detail than that given on that particular time period. I'm not sure if they would have had a knowledge of paleo-Hebrew or not either. It could still be a fake, or made by some other group not a part of the BoM record. At this point I would lean towads it NOT being BoM related.

"My position is that Joseph Smith goofed when he wrote that."

You are welcome to your opinon, however there are some facts about the BoM that are even more puzzeling than this inscription.

Chiasmus are a poetical form found in anchient Hebrew writings that was only noticed and identified a few decades ago, however the BoM abounds with them. Also, the customs and practices of Semitic people of that age are accuratly reflected, although Joseph had no knowledge of such things at that time. Names first unique to the Book of Mormon have since turned up in other findings, proving them to be acutal Semetic names used back then, likewise many things stated in the BoM that were first pointed out as clearly being wrong (pre-Columbus horses in the americas, the writing of sacred text on metal plates, and the existance of a light and dark skinned tribe in the americas etc.) were proven correct after it was published.

If you want to check out some more stuff like that, check out http://www.jefflindsay.com/BMEvidences.shtml and http://www.fairlds.org/apol/ai105.html for starters
101 posted on 10/10/2002 8:42:27 AM PDT by Grig
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To: Grig
Given that much of the BOM was copied from the KJV finding the same literary devices in both is hardly surprizing. There is nothing new or uncommon about chiasmus that would lend support to the authenticity of the BOM despite the claims. About chiasmus: "Encyclopedia > Chiasmus Chiasmus (latinized form of Greek χιασμός, from χίασμα (chiasm), "crossing") is a figure of speech based on inverted parallelism. This criss-crossing term derives its name from the X-shaped Greek letter χ (chi). It is a rhetorical figure in which two clauses are related to each other through a reversal of terms in order to make a larger point. In Latin, in particular, it was used to articulate balance or order within the text in which it was included. In linguistics, romanization or latinization is a system for representing a word or language with the Roman (Latin) alphabet, where the original word or language used a different writing system. ... Promotional photo of Emileigh Rohn. ... It has been suggested that this article or section be merged with Stylistic device. ... Parallelism is a rhetorical device. ... Due to technical limitations, some web browsers may not display some special characters in this article. ... A figure of speech, sometimes termed a rhetorical figure or device, or elocution, is a word or phrase that departs from straightforward, literal language. ... In grammar, a clause is a group of words consisting of a subject and a predicate, although, in non-finite clauses, the subject is often not explicitly given. ... Latin is an ancient Indo-European language originally spoken in Latium, the region immediately surrounding Rome. ... Today, chiasmus is applied fairly broadly to any "criss-cross" structure, although in classical rhetoric, it was distinguished from other similar devices, such as the antimetabole. In its classical application, chiasmus would have been used for structures that do not repeat the same words and phrases, but invert a sentence's grammatical structure or ideas. The concept of chiasmus has been attributed to inverted order of themes in stories and plays called a chiastic structure. Antimetabole is the repetition of words in successive clauses, but in reverse grammatical order (ex: I know what I like, and like what I know). It is similar to chiasmus although chiasmus does not use repetition of the same words or phrases. ... Chiastic structure is a literary structure used most notably in the Torah in those passages attributed to the priestly source. ... www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Chiasmus"
107 posted on 02/01/2009 11:24:57 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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