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This Killer Doesn't Fit the Expected Profile
NY Times ^
| 10-08-02
| FOX BUTTERFIELD
Posted on 10/08/2002 5:32:09 AM PDT by Pharmboy
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To: Robe
The media can't mention the terroris possiblity because:
1. It would mean this person probably obtained the firearm illegally. (so much for gun laws)
2. People would want to arm themselves to at least TRY to defend themselves from an enemy combatant. (remember the CNN videos which showed Alqueda going after CIVILIANS and not soldiers.)
3. This would violate the Political Correctness Thought crime double speak code of the religion of peace. (Watch for the provile gandma but not osama crowd to scream loudly)
4. This might mean people will not be sheep and forget to "trust" government. (see pre and post 9/11 hijacking rules. Before: sit back let gov. representatives negotiate it, After: fight for your very life)
5. If the crime is solved the news story dies with the arrival of the solution. (they don't want solutions, they want viewers)
To: longtermmemmory
Could this be from a bolt action rifle? Yes. Rifles and pistols have been made in various .22 centerfire calibers, in bolt-action, break-action, and semi-automatic configurations.
Manufacturers are too numerous to mention. The cartridge is not necessarily .223 Remington, our standard military infantry round... Bullets meeting the given description could be fired from a .22-250, .222 Remington, .222 Remington Magnum, .223 Remington, .224 Remington, .224 Weatherby, .225 Winchester, .220 Swift, even ancient cartridges like the .22 Savage High-Power... or any of a dozen different "wildcat" (custom-made) cartridges such as .22-6mm.
While the rate of rifling twist on the recovered bullets could tend to rule out some of the abovementioned calibers, it's truly anyone's guess as to what sort of firearm is involved here.
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posted on
10/08/2002 6:26:31 AM PDT
by
Oberon
To: Pharmboy
I think this is a professional assassin in a totally decked out shooting platform. A suv or truck with tinted windows and a sound suppressing interior. Shooting a decent quality or better suppressed rifle. 223 or better in cal. Shooting a small fast light weight round that tears through soft targets with decently places shoots and completely disintegrates on impact with hard targets. all traces are covered from a ballistic standpoint as well as they're escape
This is what trained snipers are supposed to do. Shot once, kill, install fear and terror and most of all evade getting caught to kill again.
After driving home last night Im looking around on my drive and Im thinking if there are people willing to do this. Instead of your typical nut case that shows up every once in awhile spraying a auto in a office/crowded place
They have a target rich environment here in the USA for shooting "innocent" civilians at a semi long distance loading up there mini vans and cutting there lawns.
My thoughts and prayers go out to the victims families and as I all ways say CYA
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posted on
10/08/2002 6:26:47 AM PDT
by
ezo4
To: Pharmboy
With all the government assets in this part of the country, what are the chances of reviewing satellite imagery in an attempt to identify fleeing vehicles near the shooting scenes? If it's not possible to review past scenes, I would expect that this strategy is being employed now.
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posted on
10/08/2002 6:28:03 AM PDT
by
Tin Cup
To: Iron Eagle
Now, however, I think that a terrorist group would want to take credit for the action. Al'Qaeda rarely takes credit for their terrorist acts.
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To: Aquinasfan
The single-shot MO seems to contradict the theory that these are terrorists. I'm not following how the single-shot modus operandi seems to contradict the terrorist theory. To my line of thinking, the cold efficiency would be purposefully employed to heighten the sense of terror in the community. Being able to kill from a decent range without wasting a lot of ammo is by design a terror inducing concept. That's why military snipers are so effective. Not only do they take out people, but they do it behind enemy lines and follow up by escaping and evading, only to strike again.
Can you explain your opinion to me (I'm not trying to pick a fight, but rather would like to understand your viewpoint)?
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posted on
10/08/2002 6:33:58 AM PDT
by
MortMan
To: Aquinasfan
Why are they only taking one shot at their victims?He's challenging himself. Like in a video game.
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posted on
10/08/2002 6:35:03 AM PDT
by
maxwell
To: Ragirl
The random like surgical strikes with seemingly no regard to race ethnicity and the fact that ALL of the victims were simply BEING TYPICAL AMERICANS Or the killer is shooting people who happen to be in a situation he can kill them and get by with it. He doesn't wish to be caught.
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posted on
10/08/2002 6:36:46 AM PDT
by
FITZ
To: Pharmboy
The article is notable for totally ignoring the possibility of terrorism.
To: Frumious Bandersnatch
To: Tin Cup
You bring up something I hadn't thought of. All these attacks are avoiding areas around major federal facilities. The closest one were the attack on the DC-Montegomery line near the NOAA headquarters (Weather Service, Fisheries Service). Definately a soft target. The only assets in eastern Montegomery are things most people don't know about (FEMA emergency communications center). But eastern Montegomery is 50% immigrant (mostly hispanic but my apartment complex is more diverse than the UN), so a guy with an accent and brown skin doesn't even register in peoples mind.
To: Truth29
If it turns out this is a muslim, the media will suppress that information. The media will suppress that just like it suppresses that possibility. It almost doesn't seem to be muslim though because they're usually sloppy when they kill.
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posted on
10/08/2002 6:41:06 AM PDT
by
FITZ
To: MortMan
Can you explain your opinion to me (I'm not trying to pick a fight, but rather would like to understand your viewpoint)? I just don't see how taking a single shot creates more terror. I think people would be just as terrified, if not more so, if the shooter was taking several shots, especially if the murderer was firing on wounded victims.
To: myrabach
Where in the world is LON HORUCHI?
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posted on
10/08/2002 6:42:20 AM PDT
by
Area51
To: Iron Eagle
I think that a terrorist group would want to take credit for the action. No one took credit for 9-11. No one took credit for Oklahoma City.
I originally agreed with you, but I have changed my mind. By not taking credit for this action, whoever did it leaves the country wondering: was it Arab terrorists, was it domestic terrorists, or was it some lone nutcase? The result is to create more fear, uncertainty, and doubt (FUD) in the public's mind.
Saddam has probably also sent the word to any of the groups he supports that if they do commit a terrorist action against the U. S. to not take any credit for it. That would only step up the pressure to invade Iraq. Iraq is playing both sides of this. Behind the scenes he is supporting terrorist groups, but publicly he is trying to make it look like he doesn't.
To: Pharmboy
He needn't eject the casing with a bolt action rifle, so it does make sense. Good point.
To: Pharmboy
After reading this, the idea that its a muslim terrorist goes up a notch higher for me.
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To: 2banana
They will rot in hades with their tongues gnawed off before they utter that tid bit of criminal profiling.
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