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To: GeorgeandtheDralgore
"So, do we have 2 young adult killers playing very violent video games and each having access to a rifle?"

Actually I don' think this is the case, simply because if it did come from a video game, seems like to me they would just keep running around shooting people till they were dead, or until everyone else was dead, just like you do on those video games right?

On the 1 or 2 rifles, you could absolutely be right, but I don't see why you would need 2. If you have two people, one driver, one shooter, then there would be no need for two rifles, unless it was to clear up the "zeroing" problem. Of course, if they had two rifles, I would think they would both be shooting one cooridinated shot, resulting in two kills with one "noise problem". Makes sense right? One noise (noise being the biggest part of getting caught) and two kills.

Oh, and by the way. It is possible for two people to shoot the same zero, it's just not likely. And about the scope zero problem it works like this.

Draw a circle on a piece of paper and put a cross through it. These are your crosshairs in you scope. Now what you've drawn is what a view through the scope should look like. Now it's all dependent on how you hold the gun, the length of your arms, ect. So if another person puts the rifle up to his shoulder, he may be too short to get a good look through the scope. This will leave him with part of the view being blacked out. So take your circle and on the left side of your circle, draw a sliver of a cresent moon from the top crosshair, following the curve of your circle, to the bottom crosshair. This cresent moon blackout you've drawn is what it might look like for someone who the gun/scope is not set up for. Now since he's not in the right place (seeing the whole scope) then he has now changed the place where the crosshairs are pointing. And I believe if he had the left blacked out a little, and put the crosshairs on target, I believe his shot will fall right (opposite of the blacked out crescent) of where his crosshairs are. It's an optical thing. Anyway, just thought I'd give you a little new info. Maybe you don't care, but putting a new wrinkle in the ole' noggin never hurt anyone right?
313 posted on 10/08/2002 8:13:54 AM PDT by walkingdead
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To: walkingdead
Of course, if they had two rifles, I would think they would both be shooting one cooridinated shot, resulting in two kills with one "noise problem". Makes sense right? One noise (noise being the biggest part of getting caught) and two kills.

I'm not sure I understand. I meant even if they each have their own rifle, they wouldn't be shooting the same people because one would have to be doing the driving while the other one shoots.

Also by teens, I mean older teens or very young adults. To me it would shed more light on the shooting of the young boy.

338 posted on 10/08/2002 8:29:24 AM PDT by Elenya
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To: walkingdead
"...And I believe if he had the left blacked out a little, and put the crosshairs on target, I believe his shot will fall right (opposite of the blacked out crescent) of where his crosshairs are. It's an optical thing..."

It's called parallax. It has no effect at the range at which the scope is focused. And out of that range, it might move the point of impact by an inch a cupole hundred yards away.

It is EASY to kill people from far away with an ordinary rifle. Green soldiers have proven this millions of times. As have hundreds of millions of hunters (regarding killing game.)
487 posted on 10/08/2002 9:46:48 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed
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To: walkingdead
This will leave him with part of the view being blacked out. So take your circle and on the left side of your circle, draw a sliver of a cresent moon from the top crosshair, following the curve of your circle, to the bottom crosshair. This cresent moon blackout you've drawn is what it might look like for someone who the gun/scope is not set up for. Now since he's not in the right place (seeing the whole scope) then he has now changed the place where the crosshairs are pointing. And I believe if he had the left blacked out a little, and put the crosshairs on target, I believe his shot will fall right (opposite of the blacked out crescent) of where his crosshairs are. It's an optical thing.

Except for one item: IF the next shooter(s) can adjust their position to eliminate the dark shadow altogether, the zero is STILL zero.

501 posted on 10/08/2002 10:01:22 AM PDT by ninenot
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