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Freeh: Right Wing Groups Bigger Threat
World Net Daily ^ | Oct 7, '02 | Paul Sperry

Posted on 10/07/2002 6:30:44 PM PDT by joesnuffy

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To: Fred Mertz
The hearings start at 10 am Eastern, and will be shown live on C-Span 3. I'll keep looking at the schedule of C-span 1 and 2 to see when (if) they will show the replay today.
41 posted on 10/08/2002 3:32:32 AM PDT by YaYa123
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Here are my thoughts on the subject.

People like Louie Freeh with this kind of attitude are why more and more people like myself are becoming frightened and scared of the prospect of the Democrats running this country.

This kind of attitude indicates that these people do not want to debate issues and ideas with those of differing opinions. What they want to do instead is punish those who speak negatively of their party and enormously harmful political and social agenda. It is we, the conservatives and christians that they consider a national security risk, not the Al-Queda terroists who commited these awful acts on 9-11-2001.

Never mind that we are the backbone of the economy of our own communities. Never mind the reality that we, the conservative and christian communitity are a very vital part of our nation's economy. What matters is that Democrats are special people and are more superior than any other political party and as such they have a right to punish anyone that casues disconfort to them with their ideas and beliefs.

That is why these elections are so vitally important. Our very freedoms and rights of existence in our own communities are on the line. We cannot simply allow these people to set or influence goverment policy.If we do, this nation won't have much of a future.
Regards.

42 posted on 10/08/2002 4:39:20 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: YaYa123; Elle Bee
YaYa, thanks for that info. Please flag me to your observations if you happen to watch Louie B. Freeh for the first time in a long time.

Elle Bee, your girlfriend Mary Jo White will be in the hot seat today on one of the C-SPANs.
43 posted on 10/08/2002 5:22:28 AM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Fred Mertz
Hearings must have started promptly at 10 am. I'm listening to it live on C-span radio..via computer. The beginning of the hearing, again, is Eleanor Hill, reading from her investigation findings.

She's talking about the lack of cooperation between foreign and domestic intelligence gathering. Failures allowed suspected Al Quada members from being tracked as they entered, left, and re-entered the country.

She said: As terrorism threats increased in late 90s, the intelligence communities treated everything as priorities, didn't distinguish between most and least important needs.

Panel Goss introduces, with all their titles:
Warren Rudman, Judge Louis Freeh, Mary Jo White, Dr. Paul blah blah, (didn't catch it), With this many on the panel, even if they are sworn in, won't get grilled good enough to suit us. "I do" they swear. "yuck yuck", I say.

Opening statements: (I'll recap without barf alerts) Rudman: I want to talk about roles of intelligence communities for the 21st Century. Nevermind, Rudman is going to boast how brilliant he and Gary Hart were in the study they did for the congress, before they knew who would be elected in 2000.

Rudman says our conclusion was we needed a Homeland Security Agency. ..Because we were aware of an increased threat from terrorists...it was obvious.

(((Maybe the news channels will flip to show the hearings live when Freeh testifies. Rudman's opening statement is such a self-serving bunch of crap, my brain shut down. )))

44 posted on 10/08/2002 7:57:59 AM PDT by YaYa123
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To: Fred Mertz
Freeh's opening statement, as much as I could take of it:

I've appeared before congress..first time in 1980 before Rudman when I was an agent.
'bipartisan leadership I've always commended" BS
outstanding support for law enforcement BS
First of all, I express condolences to victims of 9-11 and all terrorism, I have strived every day to ensure that people we protect are safe. And men and women of law enforcement, are appreciated by people here, and they lay down their lives.. THIS IS TIME FILLING BALDERDASH!!!

(((Get on with it Freeh!!))) (He's talking about watching FBI agents remove the bodies on the USS Cole. It was an act of war. . He watched FBI agents removed human remains at Khobar Towers too. Act of war. Same FBI people did these tasks, and were protected by Marines as they worked. They ifted through ruins of our embassies too. These also were acts of war.

Same FBI agents did the same things at first World Tower too. I watched this too.

I visited families of these victims.
On June 2001, shortly before I left the FBI victims family members of Khobar Towers came to me at FBI headquarters to thank me. Most moving day of my public service.

my 26 years of public service.

I want to give over view of terrorists threat. and give limitations of FBI before 9-11.

Terrorism = inevitable. We can't prevent it all. No country ,no country, especially a democracy, can prevent the inevitable attacks.

Intelligence community and FBI did not have sufficient information to prevent 9-11 repeating Moeller's statement to the committee that 9-11 couldn't have been prevented.

The terrorists didnt break laws, acted like us, like Americans, we couldnt have found them. They didn't have their own computers. In short, terrorist exploited loopholes in our security systems. Nothing they did triggered alerts.

On the Phoenix memo: predictive value must be evaluated , "bits of information we had can be viewed like a sip of water coming out of a fire hydrant"

Nothing I've seen, nothing I know about, could have prevented 9-11.

I want to applaud George Tenet

(((CYA and CYA the CIA too)))

Those bad old terrorists, they gonna exploit all our shortcomings.

sheeeeet!! Freeh is even giving kudos to Clinton and Gore for a study from back in 1997!! I don't want to criticize the FAA, but while you are going after the CIA and FBI, don't forget the FAA.

FBI allocations were insufficient in counter terrorism. We didn't have enough agents.

45 posted on 10/08/2002 8:27:59 AM PDT by YaYa123
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To: YaYa123; Sal; aristeides; thinden; Howlin; Miss Marple
Thanks YaYa. I just tuned in to the C-SPAN3 radio.

http://www.c-span.org/watch/index.asp#radio
46 posted on 10/08/2002 8:34:13 AM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: YaYa123
LOL Porter Goss announces the committee has been summoned to a vote, but tells Louie Louie to keep right on giving his opening statement. (((who's listening anyway?)))

We can hope Mary Jo White's statement is much shorter. Maybe the Q & A will be less predictable.

Oh by the way, the FBI made Al Queda (sp) it's number 1 target in 1999, so says Louie Louie.

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47 posted on 10/08/2002 8:35:39 AM PDT by YaYa123
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To: Fred Mertz
Roger, over and out...I'm off to the WalMart! (I'll be looking for parking lot cameras, Irish Travelers beating their babies, snipers on rooftops, and cops to hug.
48 posted on 10/08/2002 8:39:08 AM PDT by YaYa123
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To: Fred Mertz
Freeh is on C-SPAN Radio right now.
49 posted on 10/08/2002 8:47:11 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: Fred Mertz
Thanks for the link Fred.
50 posted on 10/08/2002 8:48:18 AM PDT by AGreatPer
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To: aristeides
Freeh is droning on and on. I'm listening, but have to run in a few.
51 posted on 10/08/2002 8:48:54 AM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: joesnuffy
Flame suit on. Check

I fully support GW and his efforts. The problem is that when he's long gone and the shifting demographics virtualy guarantees the liberals being in charge from 2012 on, the Homeland Security Act will be used against conservatives, gun owners, etc...

52 posted on 10/08/2002 8:56:52 AM PDT by MattinNJ
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To: GhostofWCooper
Was the FBI talking about the "vast right wing conspiracy" before Hillary mentioned it? In their zest, did they start going after outspoken Republican citizens? Were FBI actions used to intimidate conservatives? Legal, honest conservatives who objected to having a possible rapist President lying to the country. Freedom is being able to object to a man like Clinton. Its what free speech is for, contrary to what the larry flynts will say...

At the least, this silliness exposed us to real threats from the likes of Osama.

As WorldNetDaily first reported July 25, veteran FBI agents have complained that the Clinton administration shifted countererror efforts to fighting "right-wing groups" as part of a larger political strategy to demonize Republicans.

53 posted on 10/08/2002 9:52:56 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: Fred Mertz
they will treat her like a Goddess

She's the Reno MiniMe

Congressional hearings are always a joke

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54 posted on 10/08/2002 9:57:16 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: YaYa123
I am somewhat surprised by the whole Freeh thing. Frankly, I thought he was among the least repulsive of all the Clinton people. It was common knowledge that Clinton feared Freeh throughout the whole Lewinksy saga.

If Freeh were honest, he would cut his Clinton ties completely and tell the truth but I guess he doesn't want to go the way of Vince Foster.

55 posted on 10/08/2002 9:59:53 AM PDT by mwl1
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To: E.G.C.
Good post. Clinton didn't give a d@mn about catching real terrorists, he was more concerned about his version of terrorists: Americans who love their country and who are working to take it back from Fifth Column traitors.

Regarding Freeh: Once upon a time in America it may have been possible for the most competent and the most honorable people to move to the top, because they could be trusted with the reins of power. Today we have people like Freeh, the dictionary definition of "sh*t floats". Now, slick hacks, polished in the art of playing politics, rapidly bypass their betters, and force their remaining colleagues and anyone else, who may have so much as an ounce of skill or integrity, out of the organization.

I have a friend who's a West Point grad, has a sterling character, and a deep love of God and country. He left the military right after Clinton was re-elected. He just couldn't take it anymore. He said that he couldn't in good conscience help implement the new agenda, that it was going to get people killed, and that his superiors roadblocked him until he felt literally "under siege". He had to either, go along with the new program, or resign, so he resigned, and they seemed glad when he did.

56 posted on 10/08/2002 10:16:50 AM PDT by schmelvin
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To: YaYa123
But they had enough agents to investigate possible ties between Timothy McVeigh and "right wing" militia groups. They didn't find one but the cost in manpower and resources just for that phase of the investigation came to around one million dollars.
They also had enough agents to spend years on a manhunt for Eric Rudolph. Not saying they shouldn't have tracked him but last I heard, attempts to catch him were costing near two million and that was a couple of years ago.
Here's hoping each Islamakazi will get the same consideration by the feds.
57 posted on 10/08/2002 10:19:23 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: WOSG
Ask White why she didn't prosecute Clinton or Torricelli? Someone should hold her feet to the fire over her inaction.Liberals, who needs them?
58 posted on 10/08/2002 11:12:28 AM PDT by LaGrone
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To: joesnuffy
The stain on the U.S. from X42, and his bitch will be here for the unforseeable future.
59 posted on 10/08/2002 11:17:46 AM PDT by wjcsux
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To: joesnuffy
..., veteran FBI agents have complained that the Clinton administration shifted counterterror efforts to fighting "right-wing groups" as part of a larger political strategy to demonize Republicans.

Maybe demonizing Republicans was the goal and MAYBE the goal was much more sinister than that. Gary Aldrich told us in Unlimited Access that the Clintons systematically dismantled white house security. He believed it was to protect the little druggie groupies the Clintons had as staff. Maybe Clinton would risk his brand new presidency to cover for some druggies. I think he wanted security removed so he could do his evil deeds unhindered. And, no, I do NOT mean blow jobs; I mean Chinagate and other treasons.

Clinton admitted he LOATHED the military. I think they both loathe what this country was and should still be. I think they have worked to harm it. I SUSPECT that demonizing Republicans was frosting on their poison cake. They WANTED security out of the WH and it's just possible they wanted pressure off islamic terrorists. IMO.

60 posted on 10/08/2002 11:25:40 AM PDT by Sal
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