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To: AAABEST; sauropod; farmfriend; TonyWojo
Oh, I forgot! Let me tell you exactly what a vernal pool is! Sauropod can back me up on this with video! It is basically a big mud-hole! It has water (not free flowing but stagnate) that only has water in it for certain times of the year.....and is basically what I would call "dead water"---not a source for fresh clean water, but a "dead pool" and only supports skitters and leaches! The deer know better to drink from it! But it is good at supporting skitters that are causing West Nile and La Cross encephilitis!

Now do we all want to save all the "vernal pools'??? Not me! I have been told to make sure I have no buckets, tires, etc. that supports "dead water"...so why then a "vernal pool"???????? It is all a bunch of BS! Meant to steal land! Hello, when will real folks wake up?

28 posted on 10/07/2002 2:51:24 PM PDT by countrydummy
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To: countrydummy
Vernal pools, another name for mud hole. Maybe wetlands are out & vernal pools are in because few know what that means. We own some property on the Gulf Coast that has some mudholes uh, I mean vernal pools on it. The NC would really like to get there hands on our vernal pools. lol
30 posted on 10/07/2002 3:12:01 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: countrydummy
A little something from VernalPools.org. (California site)

Regional Conservation Planning

About NCCPs

The Natural Community Conservation Planning (NCCP) Act authorizes local land use authorities and the Department of Fish and Game to enter into an agreement that streamlines permitting for impacts to listed species and their habitat in exchange for measures which ensure conservation of those species. The NCCP Act requires an initial planning agreement, and a public participation process. 

Because initial NCCPs authorized in southern California have been criticized by scientists and environmentalists as well as developers, a new statute containing stricter requirements was proposed during the 2001 legislative season. SB 107 will require additional standards and findings to be part of any NCCP Plan.  

also for the kids . . .

California Vernal Pools
a collection of information and resources


VernalPools.Org ] General Information ] [ Kids & Education ] Animals & Plants ] Places To See ] Conservation Links ] Regulatory Links ] Mitigation & Creation ] Publications & References ] Outside California ] Mather Field Vernal Pools ] UC Merced Controversy ]

Kids & Education Links 

Vernal pools are the perfect outdoor classroom. Vernal pools are miniature watersheds. They have nearly closed ecosystems with huge food webs. And they are on a spatial scale that kids can understand. Plus where else can you play with slimy critters and see thousands of wildflowers? 

Vernal Pool Links for Kids

Vernal Pool Links for Teachers

  
"Vernal Pools"
California's Gold with Huell Howser
 
KCET-TV Los Angeles - July 15, 7:30 pm
KVIE-TV Sacramento - July 24, 1:30 pm
KQED-TV - July 30, 2:00 pm

Featuring Sacramento Splash and the
Sacramento Valley Open Space Conservancy

Copies of this video may be ordered through the 
California Native Plant Society;
please visit their online bookstore.

http://www.vernalpools.org/education.htm


32 posted on 10/07/2002 3:31:53 PM PDT by madfly
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To: countrydummy
not a source for fresh clean water, but a "dead pool" and only supports skitters and leaches!

Don't forget the fairy shrimp, mustn't forget the fairy shrimp. It's a big deal out here on the left coast.

36 posted on 10/07/2002 3:42:29 PM PDT by farmfriend
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