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To: fogarty
"Get real. IT'S ALREADY A HOLY WAR. The Islamists have already declared war on America. They consider us enemies. The sooner we realize that the enemy is not muslim terrorists, but MUSLIMS, period, the sooner we can get down to business and get rid of the threat."

Okay genius. Please explain to me how in this supposed "HOLY WAR" the Muslim nation of Jordan's already letting us launch special operations from their soil an build logistical and medical facilities there. Why did the Muslim nation of Pakistan put their hands over their eyes as we routinely passed through their land on the way to and from Afghanistan? Why is the dominantly Muslim nation of Turkey already working with us to prep insurgents and shore up airbases in Northern Iraq? Why did a division of M1 tanks just get pulled out of Europe and was just spotted on trailers in Muslim Kuwait? Why have we been building a massive air base in Muslim Qatar for the last year? What's your guess as to why as an atheist I'm in full support of this "holy war"?

Falwell's just a media hungry opportunist, but if other more respected religious and political leaders didn't take the presidents lead and refrain from making this into a holy war, Muslims would be more united and we'd have a much more difficult battle with Iraq and thousands more good Americans would likely have to die to do what we're poised to do.

We are not and have never been in a holy war. That's un-American. It runs counter to everything this country stands for. We don’t declare war on ideasinternally or externally, as some idiots here suggest, we declare war on behavior, i.e. international terrorism. If we ever had a leader who listened to Internet forum fools and attempt to do so, I and a hundred million other good Americans would oppose him.

68 posted on 10/07/2002 4:49:43 AM PDT by elfman2
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To: elfman2
Can you explain why Muslims around the world cheered at 9-11? Why Muslims even here in the US (American citizens!) did not condemn the 9-11 attacks? The fact of the matter is, the goal, the final solution, of Islam is the destruction of the West and Israel. Islam does not tolerate other religions, and their ultimate plan is to establish sharia in every country on the planet. This is not me or Falwell saying this - this is coming from the mouths of the highest Muslim religious leaders.

Muslims around the world have already declared war on the United States. It does not make much sense to stick our heads in the sand and continue to court their acceptance.

77 posted on 10/07/2002 6:31:44 AM PDT by fogarty
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To: elfman2
The answer to your question is clear: military force. Muslim countries are allies of convenience and/or due to military force (that is, an American military force at their throat). They are not allies from mutual trust or friendship. They are merely enemies who have been coerced to our will.
82 posted on 10/07/2002 7:21:55 AM PDT by fogarty
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