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Will Clinton Be 1st Woman President?
Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 10/6/02 | MAUREEN DOWD

Posted on 10/06/2002 1:17:18 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection

BY MAUREEN DOWD
NEW YORK TIMES NEWS SERVICE


    Watching Robert Torricelli mist and mewl, as he was torn from the bosom of the Senate, gave me new pause over that old question: Are men biologically suited to hold political office and leadership positions?
    We have the Torch dousing himself in self-pity and wondering why nobody will forgive him for something he claims he never did with a sugar daddy who draped him in Italian-made clothes and Tiffany baubles.
    We've got a tearful Andrew Cuomo getting the vapors and being led away from the governor's race on the strong arms of Bill Clinton and Charlie Rangel. And Jeb Bush crying whenever his daughter is busted.
    We've got Tom Daschle in a lipstick-pink tie practically having a drama-queen breakdown on the floor of the Senate about being the victim of those nasty White House bullies.
    We've got the Dow, the ultimate measure of macho capitalism, going all fluttery-jittery at the prospect of battle: depressed one minute, hyperactive the next.
    We've got Ari Fleischer -- the same Ari who on Tuesday called on Iraqis to assassinate Saddam because "the cost of one bullet" would be "substantially less" than the $13 billion cost of a war -- in a swivet because reporters found out he registered for his wedding gifts at Target instead of Tiffany.
    The arena is full of powerful men in touch with their powerless inner women. And yet, surrounded by famous men puddling under pressure, American girls are still doubtful about the prospects of a woman becoming president. According to a poll in Tuesday's USA Today, 40 percent said they would not see one within 10 years and a grim 14 percent "not in my lifetime."
    Are those 14 percent unaware of the Clintonian relentlessness of the junior senator from New York?
    In the latest sign that she is running for president in 2008, candidate Hillary Clinton is staying away from Al Gore's kumbayah corner.
    Whatever doubts she may have privately about war, she is not articulating her angst as loudly as some of her Democratic colleagues.
    She knows that any woman who hopes to be elected president cannot have love beads in her jewelry case. It may be too much even to be caught with a worn copy of "Tapestry."
    Clinton has said that she will support President Bush if he decides to take out Saddam. "I know a little bit about what it's like on the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue, making these difficult decisions," she told Tim Russert.
    Just as her husband was obsessed with maintaining his "political viability" during the Vietnam draft, candidate Clinton must keep her own political viability in mind during the Senate debate on war.
    Although many Americans assume she is too polarizing a figure to ever get elected, the former first lady has been shrewd and pragmatic in how she has handled herself in the Senate. She did not have a tantrum when Republican leaders were stingy with her office space. Hillary has offered the other cheek to those who once pilloried her and has charmed her Senate elders, turning her Washington house into the Cipriani of fund raising, and has put Democrats in her debt by handing out fistfuls of cash from her political action committee.
    Hillary and Bill, her very own Dick Morris, have a grandiose master plan that calls for John Kerry or John Edwards -- or Al Gore, if he can find any Democratic donors -- to be the sacrificial lamb in 2004 to a popular wartime president.
    Hillary will try to quell criticisms that she is a pushy queen bee by playing the worker bee in the Senate for a few more years. She will disabuse those who thought she was the liberal in the White House, veering away from the left on issues like welfare and bankruptcy.
    Her supporters have sketched out a Doomsday scenario that would catapult her into the White House:
    In the flush of patriotism and empire-building, the Republicans take over the Senate and keep the House this fall. Then President Bush wins his war on Iraq. He and his inner circle become more arrogant.
    Gen. Rove, as he is known in Hillaryland, pushes through the most reactionary agenda since the Congress of Vienna, packing the courts with young right-wingers opposed to abortion and all regulations. Congress, too, gets carried away with an ultra-conservative agenda.
    The maniacally centrist American public craves another correction. Right, left, right, left. Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton. Yup. In our lifetime.
   


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: hillary; president
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Someone will shoot her before that happens. IMHO. Not a threat, just an opinion.
61 posted on 10/06/2002 4:45:38 PM PDT by jslade
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To: Uncle Meat
Hmmm...I thought succubi were supposed to be sexually attractive.
62 posted on 10/06/2002 4:47:53 PM PDT by RichInOC
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Which one is considered the "woman?"
63 posted on 10/06/2002 4:51:23 PM PDT by 69ConvertibleFirebird
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Will Clinton Be 1st Woman President?

Not if I can help it. I'll be retired by the time she runs, and if I have to spend every day and dime to prevent her from realizing her ambition, so be it.

I cannot bear the thought of my children and potential grandchildren living under another clintbilly regime.

64 posted on 10/06/2002 4:57:15 PM PDT by mombonn
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To: Zebra
Nice! I think you intimidated any competition away with those two winners as your openers... but I'll try anyway...
Robert Torricelli = "Brill to cite error"
Frank Lautenberg = "Enter. Grab a flunk."
"Zebra" anagrams into "E-Z bra". ;^)
65 posted on 10/06/2002 5:14:42 PM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Two Clinton Presidential Retirement pensions? Two Clinton LIEbraries? Two Clinton Secret Service Details for life?

Hillary for President...Chelsea for VP. Perish the thought.

sw

66 posted on 10/06/2002 5:22:14 PM PDT by spectre
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To: KantianBurke
If Hitlery wins in 08 the expected re-education camps are going to have a hard time getting folks to work for them as there are a lot of folks out here in fly over country that have 1. firearms 2. the will to use them 3.military/LEO experience 4. went to SHOP class & can run various types of machine tools 5.Are the folks that keep the lights on & the water coming out of the faucet. 6. things get really weird the support for hitlery will find itself in the dark with no real communications ie phones are dead & in a world of s**t
67 posted on 10/06/2002 5:30:35 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
They'll sue to get a presidential election in 2006.

No need. She's going to run in 2004,and she's going to win. Bubba Bush seems to be scared to death of her,and won't stand up to any of her attacks.

68 posted on 10/06/2002 5:37:37 PM PDT by sneakypete
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To: Zebra
Another try:
Frank Lautenberg = "Frank: a reel nut bag"
Douglas Forrester = "foul error gets sad"
First woman president = "FR man: twist one's pride"
Condoleeza Rice = "Linc oozed care."
69 posted on 10/06/2002 5:37:38 PM PDT by Teacher317
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To: spectre
Chelsea for VP.

Not yet. She will most likely get a State Department job first,and then a Senate seat. She is already preparing herself with her Oxford degree in "International Relations. She also now has a "personal assistant" hired to help her. The news babe on SNL last night commented on someone who is still in college and who doesn't even have a job hiring a personal assistant,and said it "officially makes Chelsea Clinton the white Al Sharpton".

70 posted on 10/06/2002 5:42:33 PM PDT by sneakypete
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To: TruthWillWin
re #31: janet reno would make a great gynecologist...a gynecologist with parkinson's can name his/her own price!!! sorry...that WAS tacky wasn't it??? lol
71 posted on 10/06/2002 5:53:10 PM PDT by cajun-jack
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To: section9
Of course, my friend Granite State Conservative and I have figured out that Rove and Bush have something extra special planned for Hillary come 2004, so I try not to worry about Hillary as much as some on this board do.

Please don't leave me hanging. I live in NJ and need some good news.

72 posted on 10/06/2002 6:00:17 PM PDT by MattinNJ
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To: RichInOC
O.K.How 'bout Medusa then.
73 posted on 10/06/2002 6:05:08 PM PDT by Uncle Meat
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Sorry Maureen,

Hillary Rodham Clinton will not be the first woman President of the United States.

A careful reading of the Constitution (which you have never done) reveals that a woman cannot legally be President of the United States.


United States Constitution

Article II

Section 1. The executive power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his office during the term of four years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same term, be elected, as follows:

Each state shall appoint, in such manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a number of electors, equal to the whole number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or person holding an office of trust or profit under the United States, shall be appointed an elector.

The electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for two persons, of whom one at least shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves. And they shall make a list of all the persons voted for, and of the number of votes for each; which list they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates, and the votes shall then be counted. The person having the greatest number of votes shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such majority, and have an equal number of votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately choose by ballot one of them for President; and if no person have a majority, then from the five highest on the list the said House shall in like manner choose the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by States, the representation from each state having one vote; A quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. In every case, after the choice of the President, the person having the greatest number of votes of the electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal votes, the Senate shall choose from them by ballot the Vice President.

The Congress may determine the time of choosing the electors, and the day on which they shall give their votes; which day shall be the same throughout the United States.

No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.

In case of the removal of the President from office, or of his death, resignation, or inability to discharge the powers and duties of the said office, the same shall devolve on the Vice President, and the Congress may by law provide for the case of removal, death, resignation or inability, both of the President and Vice President, declaring what officer shall then act as President, and such officer shall act accordingly, until the disability be removed, or a President shall be elected.

The President shall, at stated times, receive for his services, a compensation, which shall neither be increased nor diminished during the period for which he shall have been elected, and he shall not receive within that period any other emolument from the United States, or any of them.

Before he enter on the execution of his office, he shall take the following oath or affirmation:--"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Section 2. The President shall be commander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the militia of the several states, when called into the actual service of the United States; he may require the opinion, in writing, of the principal officer in each of the executive departments, upon any subject relating to the duties of their respective offices, and he shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment.

He shall have power, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to make treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, shall appoint ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, judges of the Supreme Court, and all other officers of the United States, whose appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by law: but the Congress may by law vest the appointment of such inferior officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the courts of law, or in the heads of departments.

The President shall have power to fill up all vacancies that may happen during the recess of the Senate, by granting commissions which shall expire at the end of their next session.

Section 3. He shall from time to time give to the Congress information of the state of the union, and recommend to their consideration such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in case of disagreement between them, with respect to the time of adjournment, he may adjourn them to such time as he shall think proper; he shall receive ambassadors and other public ministers; he shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed, and shall commission all the officers of the United States.

Section 4. The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.

Amendment XXV

Section 1. In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.

Section 2. Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

Section 3. Whenever the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, and until he transmits to them a written declaration to the contrary, such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice President as Acting President.

Section 4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.


Other sections of the Constitution, when referring to members of the Legislative or Judicial branch, do not use gender specific language.

So, until the Constitution is amended to modify the language. She is barred from the office.

Hoo Yah!

74 posted on 10/06/2002 6:27:00 PM PDT by reg45
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To: Teacher317
Good ones. How 'bout: To Be Larger (Albert Gore). Have you seen the recent photos? Shiver..............
75 posted on 10/06/2002 6:56:17 PM PDT by Zebra
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Anthony Lewis and Tom Wicker spent 30 years at the Times repeating the cliches of 1960s liberalism. Mo Dowd seems likely to spend 30 regurgitating the tired commonplaces of 1970s fish and bicycle feminism.

The mistake is that Bush will take an "extremist" path, something that's very far from his or Karl Rove's mind. But come election time liberals will portray whatever he does as "extremist" to drive the sheep to the polls.

76 posted on 10/06/2002 6:58:37 PM PDT by x
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To: CIB-173RDABN
" Hillary was able to win a Senate seat running against a weak candidate, with the assistance of a fawning media, in a section of the country that in general shared her view of the world. She will not have these advantages in a national campaign. "


I believe 6 years from now she would most certainly win all the States Gore won in 2000 , and that is TOO close for comfort .

"But, even if that was not enough, there is the fact that the world is not static. Six years (to when Hillary is most likely try for the Presidency) is a very long time. A lot can happen. "

Yea , a few million more latino immigrants from across the border will be here ready to vote for her ...A few million more brainwashed kids in school will reach voting age and the majority I think would vote for her ...

"At the very least more details of the corruption within
the Clinton administration will be exposed, and sink in to
he general voting public."

Wishful thinking . I don't see it happening .

"I will predict now that Hillary will be lucky if she can
win re-election as a Senator, let alone become President."

It is in the bag , count on it .

77 posted on 10/06/2002 7:07:37 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: sushiman
Not a chance, but dream on.
78 posted on 10/06/2002 7:10:30 PM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Will Clinton Be 1st Woman President?

Only if he gets a sex change and the 22nd Ammendment is repealed. Of course Hillary could still be the first butch president.

79 posted on 10/06/2002 7:10:58 PM PDT by TC Rider
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I hereby state before the world:

If The Hildebeast is elected President of the US, I will take a four year leave of absence from my job and leave the country. I will remain an expatriate during her tenure, and I will not return until the Hildebeast is expunged from the White House.

Skooz
10/6/02

80 posted on 10/06/2002 7:18:10 PM PDT by Skooz
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