[Dimensio]

gore3000's contention seems to be that his personal strawman of evolution is false, therefore evolution is false. Also, Darwin advocated eugenics (his 'proof' is an out-of-context quote from Darwin and even without the proper context it is a stretch to interpret it as advocacy of eugenics). As such, arguing facts is of no use because gore3000 isn't interested in facts. He's interested in making up what he needs and taking quotes (including those of other FReepers, for which I have documentation) out of context.

[gore3000]

gore3000's contention seems to be that his personal strawman of evolution is false, therefore evolution is false. Also, Darwin advocated eugenics (his 'proof' is an out-of-context quote from Darwin and even without the proper context it is a stretch to interpret it as advocacy of eugenics).

Totally false and it should be noted that you cannot quote anything from me supporting your statement. It is the evolutionists who use strawmen. They attack people with the most outrageous ideas which oppose evolution and associate all others with them. This guilt by association is a pretty lame and a pretty despicable tactic. It has nothing to do with rational discussion. It is the kind of rant made by ideologues to rouse the troops.

My attack on Darwin because of his murderous philosophy is perfectly legitimate. People following his theory have mass murdered over 100 million people and have used his theory as an excuse for the inexcusalble. Further, the quote I have given and hereby give again, is pretty plain to any normal human being:

With savages, the weak in body or mind are soon eliminated; and those that survive commonly exhibit a vigorous state of health. We civilised men, on the other hand, do our utmost to check the process of elimination; we build asylums for the imbecile, the maimed, and the sick; we institute poor-laws; and our medical men exert their utmost skill to save the life of every one to the last moment. There is reason to believe that vaccination has preserved thousands, who from a weak constitution would formerly have succumbed to small-pox. Thus the weak members of civilised societies propagate their kind. No one who has attended to the breeding of domestic animals will doubt that this must be highly injurious to the race of man. It is surprising how soon a want of care, or care wrongly directed, leads to the degeneration of a domestic race; but excepting in the case of man himself, hardly any one is so ignorant as to allow his worst animals to breed.
Darwin, "The Descent of Man", Chapter V.

The above is in no way out of context, has absolutely no deletions and is the end of a paragraph. Anyone can verify the truth of the above by going to the full text which can be found here .

In addition to which, his whole theory is a theory of death - a malthusian struggle for life (which is false), a natural selection which supposedly creates life from death. It is a totally despicable theory on many grounds IN ADDITION TO ITS BEING TOTALLY FALSE.