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Professor Rigid on Evolution (must "believe" to get med school rec)
The Lubbock Avalanche Journal ^ | 10/6/02 | Sebastian Kitchen

Posted on 10/06/2002 8:16:21 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana

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To: Alamo-Girl
Because the random function with a seed constant of 1 gives results from 0 to .99999999 the statement [X = INT (26 * RND (1)) + 1] can only generate a number from 1 to 26 from which the results are cherry picked in order (by alphabet position and in sequence) as you say!

Well, actually, that statement is producing a "random" pointer into the alphabet. It then uses that random number and compares it to the pointer in the alphabet for the letter it is seeking. For instance "T" is the 20th letter, "O" is the 15th letter, so on. If it matches it prints the letter and goes on to the next letter. If it does not match it loops and gets another number. The consequence is that each letter is preselected and only a "random" period is generated until the letter is printed.

721 posted on 10/10/2002 10:10:55 AM PDT by AndrewC
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To: AndrewC
It means there's a conflict with the tree in 715. Different molecular studies draw different trees all the time. So do different cladistic analyses. Different trees happen. This does not mean there's no underlying real phylogenetic tree, only that data are incomplete and reconstructions will vary.

The cool thing about paleontology is that, for all its shortcoming, it works with real historical data points. When the scenario plays out that evolution predicts something should be out there, and creation "science" scoffs that gaps are forever, and the something is found, that's the march of science.

It isn't as if the fossil whales are the only such case.

"We're finding more and more dramatic evidence by the day that major changes have occurred in both appearance and adaptation," said Domning. "It's no longer a matter of theory. We have actual bones in hand representing all phases of the evolution, from land animal to sea animal, in different groups of animals."
Legged Sea Cow Found in Jamaica.

Every answer brings new questions. The Luddites and AndrewC ignore the new knowledge and trumpet the new questions. Well, Luddites will be Luddites ...

722 posted on 10/10/2002 10:15:27 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: Right Wing Professor
Creation/God...REFORMATION(Judeo-Christianity)---secular-govt.-humanism/SCIENCE---CIVILIZATION!

Originally the word liberal meant social conservatives(no govt religion--none) who advocated growth and progress---mostly technological(knowledge being absolute/unchanging)based on law--reality... UNDER GOD---the nature of GOD/man/govt. does not change. These were the Classical liberals...founding fathers-PRINCIPLES---stable/SANE scientific reality/society---industrial progress...moral/social character-values(private/personal) GROWTH(limited NON-intrusive PC Govt/religion---schools)!

Evolution...Atheism-dehumanism---TYRANNY(pc-religion/rhetoric)...

Then came the SPLIT SCHIZOPHRENIA/ZOMBIE/BRAVE-NWO1984 LIBERAL NEO-America...

the post-modern age---political satanic religion---EVOLUTION!

Maybe murderers and robbers should get a free pass because they are exempt from reality...don't believe in morality---righy vs. wrong!

Just call their debauchery EVOLUTION---"exempt from the constitution---1st amendment"!

723 posted on 10/10/2002 10:19:07 AM PDT by f.Christian
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To: AndrewC
Exactly! We are making the same observation, just using different jargon.

The only variable on each run of the program is the number of attempts required to get the desired pointer (or index number) for the character in a sequential, predetermined, position.

And the odds are merely 1 in 26 for each attempt!

724 posted on 10/10/2002 10:23:03 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Right Wing Professor
If someone didn't believe in evolution, then there would be no reason for them to expect, say, lemur sequences to be closer to humans than bacterial sequences.

Of course you could. You could think God made them that way. How is it that creationists like Duane Gish have been accomplished biochemists? Understanding how the sequences work is distinct from a theory of where they came from anyway, isn't it?

725 posted on 10/10/2002 10:25:37 AM PDT by lasereye
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To: Right Wing Professor
Originally the word liberal meant social conservatives(no govt religion--none) who advocated growth and progress---mostly technological(knowledge being absolute/unchanging)based on law--reality... UNDER GOD--

knowledge being absolute/unchanging--personal as opposed to public...forced/repressed---POLITICAL!

Religous/faith liberty is gone...thanks to evolution/liberals(stealth religion/science)!

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The MO/magic of the ATHEIST--EVO taliban...

missing--Butchered dove(TRUTH/SCIENCE/CONSTITUTION)---

appearing rabbit(RATS)/... 'experts'' !

Then came the...

SPLIT SCHIZOPHRENIA/PSYCHO-EVO/NWO Soviet-LIBERAL-Socialist GULAG America---

the post-modern age of switch-flip-spin-DEFORMITY-cancer...

Atheist secular materialists through ATHEISM/evolution CHANGED-REMOVED the foundations...demolished the wall(separation of state/religion)--trampled the TRUTH-GOD...built a satanic temple/SWAMP-MALARIA/RELIGION(cult of darwin-marx-satan) over them---made these absolutes subordinate--relative...

REDACTING them

and calling/CHANGING---

all the... residuals(technology/science) === TO evolution via schlock/sMUCK IDEOLOGY/lies/bias...

to substantiate/justify/validate their efforts--claims...social engineering--PC--atheism...

anti-God/Truth RELIGION(USSC monopoly)---

and declared a crusade/WAR--JIHAD--INTOLERANCE/TYRANNY(breaking the establishment clause)...

against God--man--society/SCIENCE(religious oath-TEST for office/employment)!!

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My definition of schizophrenia is...

opposite ideas/personalities that aren't functioning/communicating very well together---

evolution &/vs science except in crazy people's head/beliefs!

Combining God and Evolution...anti-thesises---is a major psycho-logical blunder/INSANITY----'disorder'!

726 posted on 10/10/2002 10:26:13 AM PDT by f.Christian
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To: balrog666
Yep, absolutely, outside of his specialty, he is as unqualified as anyone else.

This is pretty meaningless, since I guess everyone is unqualified outside their specialty. Remember, this thread was about someone who couldn't get a letter of recommendation to go to Med school because he didn't believe in evolution. Evolution has no application in medicine that I know of. The evolutionists all seem to think this makes sense, since it indicates he lacks a "scientific mind". PatrickHenry compared it to someone who wants to study math who doesn't believe 2+2=4. So if this is true, no one who doesn't believe in evolution is qualified to be a scientist in any specialty. Therefore, I assume you wouldn't hire Raymond Jones in his specialty.

if he was an activist or someone who proselytized on the job, he would fired in a New York minute.

This has nothing to do with prosletyzing. It's about whether someone can be as competent a doctor or scientist if they don't believe in evolution as those who do.

727 posted on 10/10/2002 10:35:53 AM PDT by lasereye
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To: All
I like creative---synergistic answers---explanation...

but when it comes to God/Truth vs. LIES...

PICK one...no 3rd choices!

728 posted on 10/10/2002 10:36:17 AM PDT by f.Christian
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To: lasereye
The evolutionists all seem to think this makes sense, since it indicates he lacks a "scientific mind".

All evolutionists don't agree. A quick perusal of this thread will show you that. We have stated that a belief in creationism can be a negative indication for a career in science for which evolution is relevant. Medicine does not fall into this category.

729 posted on 10/10/2002 10:54:16 AM PDT by Nebullis
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To: lasereye
The evolutionists all seem to think this makes sense, since it indicates he lacks a "scientific mind". PatrickHenry compared it to someone who wants to study math who doesn't believe 2+2=4...

Who cares what lawyers think about who should be an MD? You might take note that three Ph.D. scientists have weighed in against Professor Dini.

730 posted on 10/10/2002 10:57:47 AM PDT by Nebullis
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To: Right Wing Professor
To: f.Christian

Now I follow, thank you. Actually, I don't disagree with this at all since I see the left as abandoning the uncertianty of democracy and majority rule for the assurance technocracy and expert rule.

152 posted on 9/10/02 12:17 PM Pacific by Liberal Classic

731 posted on 10/10/2002 11:01:19 AM PDT by f.Christian
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To: PatrickHenry
"Conversely, if someone aces all his exams in divinity school, yet he steadfastly refuses to believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God who died for our sins, would he be qualified to be a preacher? I think not."

Are you comparing evolution to the spiritual realm?

732 posted on 10/10/2002 11:04:17 AM PDT by MEGoody
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To: Right Wing Professor
"Science is not subject to the first amendment. We dismiss damnfool ideas out of hand every day. Evolution, in the minds of 99+% of working biologists, occupies so central a position in biology that anything questioning its fundamental truth (as opposed to the details of its mechanism) qualifies as a damnfool idea."

But specifically, what problems could be caused by a doctor who successfully completed the required coursework, et al, but who did not believe in evolution?

733 posted on 10/10/2002 11:09:25 AM PDT by MEGoody
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To: MEGoody
The PH crowd..."the assurance technocracy and expert rule"---

overblown egos---philosophically/intellectualy DEAD!

734 posted on 10/10/2002 11:10:20 AM PDT by f.Christian
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To: VadeRetro
Every answer brings new questions. The Luddites and AndrewC ignore the new knowledge and trumpet the new questions.

Your Ad Hominem is noted and is justification to declare your argument brain-dead. In any case, questions are what torpedoed the


735 posted on 10/10/2002 11:12:51 AM PDT by AndrewC
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To: bert
To be a competant Pyysician one must first be a scientist. The consideration of Biblical creation myths over scientific evolutionary theories will result in ineffective medical education.

To be a competent poster, one must first be a competent linguist to some degree.

The next question would be: Are you either a competent scientist or a competent physician yourself (or Pyysician, as some of you may spell it down there in Tennessee)?

736 posted on 10/10/2002 11:14:03 AM PDT by Agamemnon
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To: AndrewC
Still no explanation from you. Your Luddite screeches against what you believe are still in my reply queue. Why don't you go find a quiet corner in some bar, get crocked, and have a nice debate with yourself?
737 posted on 10/10/2002 11:26:29 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: Alamo-Girl
Exactly! We are making the same observation, just using different jargon.

Noted.

738 posted on 10/10/2002 11:30:58 AM PDT by AndrewC
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To: VadeRetro
You know, getting crocked sounds like a great idea right now.
739 posted on 10/10/2002 11:31:20 AM PDT by Junior
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To: MEGoody
Are you comparing evolution to the spiritual realm?

No.

740 posted on 10/10/2002 11:32:18 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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