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Professor Rigid on Evolution (must "believe" to get med school rec)
The Lubbock Avalanche Journal ^ | 10/6/02 | Sebastian Kitchen

Posted on 10/06/2002 8:16:21 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana

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To: Rec-O-mend-me
. If these are Dini's prerequesites than fine.

No, they are not fine. It is called abuse of power and it is despicable. He is there to teach not to indoctrinate, big difference but then tyrants do not have the slightest regard for human decency so one should not be surprised that an atheist would pull such a stunt.

581 posted on 10/09/2002 7:26:36 PM PDT by gore3000
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To: AndrewC
So long as you keep your lawyerly BS in my reply queue I will call it for what it is. You like the Abuse Button; keep your comments to me there.
582 posted on 10/09/2002 7:27:08 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
It will stay there if I choose to reply to one of your public posts. This is not your personal fiefdom.
583 posted on 10/09/2002 7:28:09 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: gore3000
So very true. These people are not scientists, they are tyrannical ideologues. If they really had the facts, they would not be using such despicable tactics to force their views on others.

Refusing to write a letter of recommendation makes them "tyrannical and despicable"??

Why don't you quit your own tactics of hate-mongering?!
Quit listening to those voices in your head (here's a hint: they are not from God).

584 posted on 10/09/2002 7:29:44 PM PDT by balrog666
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To: betty boop
I just think that a reasonable case can be made that we may be overburdening the entire notion of natural selection if we expect to find in it the sole or even principal source of the vast diversity and complexity that we see all around us.

The only thing that natural selection does is kill organisms. How can one add to diversity, to the genetic pool by destroying and thining out the population and the genetic pool? This is a totally ridiculous proposition just as silly as saying that 4-2 = 6.

585 posted on 10/09/2002 7:30:14 PM PDT by gore3000
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To: VadeRetro
This is not your personal fiefdom.

586 posted on 10/09/2002 7:30:22 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: AndrewC; VadeRetro
Your attempts to make me the center of attention are known as Ad Hominem.

Not exactly. An example of ad hominem would be "The theory of evolution is invalid because Darwin was a racist."

What Vade is engaging in is called "pointing out hypocrisy."

587 posted on 10/09/2002 7:30:46 PM PDT by Condorman
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To: AndrewC
I will then continue to point out your parallels to Westerfield's lawyers, who to the best of their ability created "reasonable" doubt which they personally knew to be unreasonable for a client they personally knew to be guilty of the murder of little Danielle.

Your story stinks. You're going to spend more time than you like discussing it until you find someone else to baffle with BS.

588 posted on 10/09/2002 7:31:44 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
I will then continue to point out your parallels to Westerfield's lawyers,

Grouse all you like, the points I address will either stand or fall on things other than your red herrings.

589 posted on 10/09/2002 7:33:57 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: Right Wing Professor; PatrickHenry
But if I were aware an otherwise talented student had creationist views, I think I'd be obliged to mention it in the letter, and let the admissions committee make up its own mind.

What if you were at a company and were in charge of hiring a scientist? If one came along with top notch credentials and you found out they didn't believe in evolution, I guess you'd have to think twice about hiring them. You would hesitate to hire Dr. Russell Humphreys, a nuclear physicist at Sandia National Laboratories who has had over 20 articles published in scientific journals, Dr. John Baumgardner, the author of the catastrophic plate tectonics theory mentioned in Nature, Dr. Edward Boudreaux of the University of New Orleans, the author of 26 articles and four books on physical chemistry, multiple Nobel Prize nominee Dr. "Fritz" Schaefer the Graham Perdue Professor of Chemistry and the director of the Center for Computational Quantum Chemistry at the University of Georgia, Dr. Raymond Damadian, the inventor of Magnetic Resonance Imaging, Dr. Maciej Giertych, Head of the Dept. of Genetics at the Institute of Dendrology at the Polish Academy of Sciences to name a few. In fact, I assume you'd conclude they were incompetent. Any candidate who believes in evolution with mediocre credentials would be a superior candidate, because they must have a "more scientific frame of mind". You people are really too much with your self deception.

590 posted on 10/09/2002 7:34:49 PM PDT by lasereye
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To: VadeRetro
If I post a certain series of skull again I'll be attacked for hypocrisy in condemning medved's spamming while meanwhile posting the same old pictures over and over again, myself.

Methinks it's too late for that Vade. You were doing just the same thing you were complaining of medved. In fact, I would say you were doing worse than medved because with medved I never saw anyone refute his posts. With you they were refuted and shown to be totally absurd time and time again. In fact, in some of the longer threads you would post the same refuted nonsense more than once. So, it's too late Vade, you have shown your character already.



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591 posted on 10/09/2002 7:35:00 PM PDT by gore3000
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To: Condorman
You still fail logic.
592 posted on 10/09/2002 7:35:08 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: Condorman
What Vade is engaging in is called "pointing out hypocrisy."

Or "pointing out truly bizarre, schizophrenic-level inconsistency." But there's no real question.

593 posted on 10/09/2002 7:35:38 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: lasereye
What if you were at a company and were in charge of hiring a scientist?

What if you were at a pharmaceutical company and were in charge of hiring a medical researcher instead of a physicist? Oh, my! Your whole diatribe goes up in smoke!

594 posted on 10/09/2002 7:38:47 PM PDT by balrog666
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To: VadeRetro
In the movie when the Boston strangler(oj simpsons) was confronted with his duplicity--crimes...he/both went catatonic!

Denial!

Main Entry: cat·a·ton·ic Pronunciation: -'tä-nik
Function: adjective
Date: 1904

1 : of, relating to, being, resembling, or affected by schizophrenia characterized especially by a marked psychomotor disturbance that may involve stupor or mutism, negativism, rigidity, purposeless excitement, and inappropriate or bizarre posturing

2 : characterized by a marked lack of movement, activity, or expression

- catatonic noun - cat·a·ton·i·cal·ly /-ni-k(&-)lE/ adverb

595 posted on 10/09/2002 7:39:44 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: PatrickHenry
THE EVIDENCE AGAINST EVOLUTION

Top: Euglena, Hymenopimesis Wasp, Butterfly, Platypus
Bottom: Bat, Fugu, Cambrian species


596 posted on 10/09/2002 7:41:14 PM PDT by gore3000
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To: VadeRetro
If your model is wrong, "Garbage in, garbage out."

But in the 1980s Richard Hardison of Glendale College wrote a computer program that generated phrases randomly while preserving the positions of individual letters that happened to be correctly placed (in effect, selecting for phrases more like Hamlet's). On average, the program re-created the phrase in just 336 iterations, less than 90 seconds. Even more amazing, it could reconstruct Shakespeare's entire play in just four and a half days.

597 posted on 10/09/2002 7:41:25 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: gore3000
Once again, despite having it explained over and over, you repeat the same falsehood. You, someone who does not even accept the theory of evolution, insist upon claiming to be an expert as to what it says.

The ultimate origins of life are as relevant to evolution as the ultimate origins of objects with mass are to gravity.

Evolution is materialism and materialism needs to deny God.

Another lie that you continue to repeat despite being told otherwise. Of course, you've demonstrated that you're not interested in truth with your blatant out-of-context quoting. You're just interested in pushing an agenda and you're clearly willing to lie in order to do it.
598 posted on 10/09/2002 7:41:38 PM PDT by Dimensio
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To: AndrewC
Grouse all you like, the points I address will either stand or fall on things other than your red herrings.

You bend over backwards to make absurd, lawyerly nitpicks which you only imagine to stand.

This behavior occurs against the evidence which supports what you claim to believe, common descent with modification in an old-earth setting. You have at no time addressed where the unique AndrewC model would produce a different fossil record or extant biota from, say, Gouldian Punk-Eek.

You have become notorious for your tap-dances, your obfuscating blizzards of irrelancies, your cryptic little zen koans designed to make the dummies think your scoring points for the Lord ... Yes, this stands or falls, but not on its own.

599 posted on 10/09/2002 7:42:56 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: Condorman
Like I said, even out of context the quote doesn't seem to imply what gore3000 claims that it implies and I have previously pointed out the exact lines you quoted as a counterargument. Of course, truth is irrelevant to gore3000.
600 posted on 10/09/2002 7:43:14 PM PDT by Dimensio
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