Posted on 10/06/2002 8:16:21 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana
That's right but aruanan's statement doesn't preclude the existence of theistic evolutionists. I would agree with you if I thought that's what aruanan was saying.
This is how I read the post:
The main purpose today and when Darwin proposed his theory was to provide a means of escaping the idea of a creator.Right or wrong the post does not preclude theistic evolutionists. As I see it that's a completely different issue. Now, I'm not familar with aruanan or his worldview and maybe he meant what you think he said. Perhaps aruanan will explicate...
I wanted to expand on something...
If in proposing their theories Darwin, Gould and others were providing a means of excaping a creator, that doesn't mean everyone who buys the theory of evolution holds to the same worldview.
Junior posted that he was a Catholic and was promptly excommunicated by Pope Gore the MMMth. Two or three times now, in fact. Gore's fellow Cs roll their eyes and pretend that nothing unreasonable is going on. Very telling.
Quite true. If Junior isn't a sufficent example, then consider The Pope's 1996 statement on evolution.
Because I don't believe in evolution, I can't understand the value of experiences or experiments involving animals??? You are kidding, right?
Not believing in evolution does not mean a person cannot observe and make a decision based on real time experiments, unlike all the different types of "evolution theory" that are conclusions draw from pieces of artifacts dug up somewhere and claimed to be "fact"
You must be the type of person who thinks because I don't believe a "theory" I have checked my brain at the door or didn't have one to begin with.
....I was hoping you just forgot your sarcasm tag........I guess not.
Without the anchor of evolutionary descent, experiments on animals might as well be on aliens. Or do the gods reuse genetic code for other reasons?
Junior and other friends of mine are sufficient and not all are Catholic. It doesn't matter if they are Catholic or who they are, whether Junior, the Pope, gore3000 or whoever, I look at what the Bible says is the main issue: Christ. Sorry, the Great Commission commands me to put a plug in for Him. If one has received Christ a belief in evolution is okay from my detailed studies of the Bible. I just wish they'd take the red pill. :-)
In reference to the link you posted, what do you think the Pope means with this statement in context with the entire article?
Consequently, theories of evolution which, in accordance with the philosophies inspiring them, consider the mind as emerging from the forces of living matter, or as a mere epiphenomenon of this matter, are incompatible with the truth about man. Nor are they able to ground the dignity of the person.
What is "the truth about man"?
What type of scientific experiments on animals were conducted before Darwin?
Strawman argument and a dumb one at that.
Ha-Ha!
So? What related the results to man? You know, individual and special creation and all that idiocy?
Strawman argument and a dumb one at that.
BWAAAAAAAAAHAHAHA! Then refute it...
So how come he didn't just ask other professors for recommendations and if he couldn't lie to the professor and tell him he believed in evolution, wasn't anwering the test relevant test questions correctly also just as much of a lie?
I'll go slow so I won't trip you up
Before Darwin, scientist's actually did experiments on animals.
Did you know that?
Based on your comment above, it was as worthwhile as examining a space alien.
So why would scientist do such silly things for, they didn't have Darwin to guide them in their quest for knowledge. Without Darwin how could they draw any scientific conclusions at all. My God the horror of it all
If evolutionary descent was unknown at the time, they must have been puzzled that all vertebrate animals have many of the same type systems in their biological make up as man does. I mean how stupid could they be??? Of course God could not have designed all living creatures in such a order
How could that be?
Maybe, just maybe the scientist who did experiments on animals realized that all things were created by the same hand so all things were designed from the same building blocks. So in conclusion, since all things have similar makeup, they could draw scientific conclusions, even without evolutionary descent.
I hope I was sufficiently condescending.
Nope. Water off a duck's back after medved, gore3000, a few idiots of that ilk. Try the f.Christian approach of babbling inanely. Oh, wait, that's what you did. Let me see if I have it now:
Animals are related to man by the divine choice of the gods. How fortuitious for all those medical studies!
And current creatures, including man, are related to past creatures solely by the choice of the latest gods who were too stupid to do it themselves? I guess they just used the crib notes of DNA from all those past creation events, huh?
Oh, wait, how about the past history of life on Earth, as laid out in the fossil record, the tree of life, and DNA relationships between species, is that just a happy coincidence? All specially made 6000 years ago to look like an old universe? Or maybe it was all made on Holy Last Thursday by Twinky the Wonder God?
My, how interesting is your world view! Tell us more!
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