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White racist [Robert Gene Baker III] hunted after sniper attacks [in Maryland]
UK Independent ^ | 6 OCT. 2002 | Andrew Gumbel

Posted on 10/05/2002 4:18:07 PM PDT by flamefront

Police across three US states were searching yesterday for a 33-year-old whitesupremacist from North Carolina who they believe may be linked to the shocking series of random killings that have terrorised the Washington area over the past few days.

According to a bulletin from the North Carolina office of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, a man named Robert Gene Baker III was believed to be around the American capital armed with a handgun and a high-powered rifle, and should be considered extremely dangerous. The ATF said he was driving a white GMC truck with Maryland registration plates and heading south towards North Carolina.

That description dovetailed almost exactly with clues picked up by local police forces in Montgomery County, Maryland – where five of the seven shootings took place – and in the District of Columbia.

One of the very few eyewitnesses to emerge so far said he saw two men in a white truck speeding away from one of the crime scenes, and Charles Moose, the police chief in Montgomery County, has said he is working on the assumption that there is a driver as well as a marksman. Ballistics evidence, meanwhile, has shown that the perpetrators used high-intensity bullets of the sort used by hunters and soldiers – and which may be compatible with the weapon ascribed to Baker by the ATF.

Baker was described as a drug user affiliated with various militia and white supremacist groups. The agency said he was 5 ft 9in, had brown eyes and brown hair and sported tattoos on his back and both arms.

Police have mounted an intensive manhunt across the eastern seaboard but without much hard evidence to go on – even the white truck is not much of a clue, given that there are hundreds of thousands of them on American roads.

Six people have been killed and one other badly injured since Wednesday night, in what police officials have described as almost ghost-like sniper attacks.

The perpetrators appear to have chosen their targets without discrimination, picking on people as they went about their daily business. In each case, they fired from a discreet distance where they could not immediately be spotted, then vanished before anyone could pick up on their trail.

The latest attack, on Friday afternoon, took place outside a crafts store in Fredericksburg, Virginia, around 50 miles south of Washington – a location consistent with the ATF tip that Baker was heading south through Virginia to North Carolina. The victim of the Fredericksburg attack was loading her car with her purchases when she was shot in the back. Her condition was not immediately made known.

The investigation is in its very early stages and police have ruled nothing out. Baker has not been formally named as a suspect, and the authorities have no idea who the second man indicated by Chief Moose might be. Ballistics tests have linked only four of the seven shootings. The bullets from the Fredericksburg attack were still being analysed yesterday, while in the two other cases the ammunition had degraded too far to be identifiable.

Everyone is working on the assumption, however, that all seven attacks are the work of the same criminal or criminals. Chief Moose said it would be "very strange" if the unidentified bullets did not match. Speaking to reporters, he said the investigation was "one of the most complex cases I've been involved with".

"It could be military, it could be a hunter, it could be someone... who has an interest in weapons," he said, and appealed directly to the perpetrators: "Whoever is involved in this madness, rethink what you're doing. Turn yourself in. Surrender to law enforcement." Gunman kills Arab youth in France

Police in northern France were yesterday hunting a gunman who shot dead a 17-year-old of North African origin and wounded three others in two apparently racist attacks in Dunkirk.

The man, wearing sunglasses and a baseball cap, fired one rifle shot from behind the wheel of a Nissan 4x4 through a cafe window on Friday night. He then shot at customers who ran out in panic, police said yesterday. Two of the wounded were of North African origin.

An hour later, he fired at a group of teenagers at another cafe, killing Mohamed Maghara, a youth of Moroccan descent. Daniel Ferey, deputy prefect in Dunkirk, called the shootings "premeditated and racist". About 200 police were searching for the gunman, believed to be in his 40s.

"We have no clues about him and he was not identified," Mr Ferey said. "The licence plates were covered. He was wearing a hunting jacket or a military outfit."

About half the residents of Grande-Synthe, the Dunkirk suburb where the youth was killed, are of North African Arab origin. Yesterday 300 people marched through the area in protest at the attacks.



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To: flamefront
Doesn't it boggle the mind how quickly the media will latch to the "whitey did it" mantra, but how far they will go to not mention the ethnicity of a perp if it is non-white, or gasp a Muslim?

Ponder how quickly the leftist media will look with suspicion at the arrest of any al-Qaeda cell or operative, and paint that person or person with the "victim" brush. It's enough to make you want to vomit.

21 posted on 10/05/2002 4:41:14 PM PDT by twntaipan
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To: Oztrich Boy
OK what's a "high-intensity" bullet?

That's a bullet that gets reported on in such 'high velocity' by the media's anti-gun crowd that it's automatically linked to assault rifle fired by a white militia guy before anybody in law enforcement reports any of the actual facts.

22 posted on 10/05/2002 4:41:23 PM PDT by DaBroasta
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To: flamefront
Old news and wrong according to news earlier today.

Thank G-d.
23 posted on 10/05/2002 4:43:43 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: HairOfTheDog
Hey, you make some good points, but it could work just the opposite. Terrorists simply cannot make the big boom work more than once every few years, at best. What better way to terrorize people than small "wins"--like this. Many people have predicted this sort of thing for a long time. If our gov weren't so damned politically correct and stretch for the white male every time, U.S. citizens will eventually figure out for themselves that there is no one to protect them but themselves.

Maybe the country will arm up.

24 posted on 10/05/2002 4:45:30 PM PDT by jammer
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To: yarddog
Oops, misunderstood your post. Sorry.
25 posted on 10/05/2002 4:47:36 PM PDT by jammer
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To: jammer
You know, I don't think they have any idea who is doing this, and the media is milking any little bit of information, no matter how conflicting, innacurate or unverified it is. And they are always as PC as can be... Nothing new there.

Just because they handle things badly doesn't mean we have to.
26 posted on 10/05/2002 4:49:11 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: flamefront
Muttly want high-intensity bullets.

Can Muttly have high-intensity bullets ?

So it's boiled down to someone who may have a gun, and know how to use it. I feel much safer now.
27 posted on 10/05/2002 4:51:10 PM PDT by PoorMuttly
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To: HairOfTheDog
This is exactly the kind of crime that will take our guns away, because it isn't just the bad risk-taking people getting killed this time, it is anyone. If our 2A spokespeople (and we are in public now, so we count) are smart we would be out giving as much helpful information to the FBI and the media as we can. I for one wish them the best of luck in catching him/them quick, before they do any more damage... I think this is a weird time for us to get all kooky and paranoid. If we don't look like we want this guy caught, then who are we?

As do I. But the way for that is for sherrif, or police, to call out the posse, the same folks who constitute the militia. Put a trained and practiced shooter on the roof of shopping malls and other likely targets. Put a cop, although you might have to settle for a reserve officer or even a National Guardsman in some cases. That's the way these guys will be caught, it's also what the Israelies do, they've also taken to arming kids too young to be called into military service, and letting them man checkpoints. Such an action would also cut down on "normal crime too of course, whereas using only police will divert them from investigating or responding to such more normal crimes and probably lead to an increase in such crimes.

However in these oh so "sensitive" times, using armed civilians is the last thing those in government, at all levels, are likely to do, at least in the oh so sohpisticated area around DC. If it were out here in fly over country, especially outside the major urban areas, there would already be posses out beating the bushes and defending the vulnerable places.

28 posted on 10/05/2002 4:56:10 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: Oztrich Boy
OK what's a "high-intensity" bullet?

Why, that's bullet with its high-beams on! Wuz 'ya born yesterday? Sheesh . . . ;-)

The guy's GOT TO BE related to Bryant. I once heard Bryant express disbelief that the Sun was a star. Dumb as a rock.

29 posted on 10/05/2002 4:57:42 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: yarddog
I went to public schools, and I learned that Oswald was a pro-Castro communist... That is how he is always described.

Why are people reacting so collectively to this crime spree? Lets just say he is a government-hating white racist militia dude. What part of that threatens what we stand for? - When did conservatism begin to represent any of that?
30 posted on 10/05/2002 5:00:14 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: El Gato
Isreal is 15 miles wide in places, isn't it? Without a lot of distinction between police and army duties.

This is such a big country (Millions of places to put snipers on rooftops) and these guys can show up anywhere and shoot from hundreds of yards away... I am armed, but I feel pretty helpless against that.

One of these guys buddies, girlfriends or wives know who this is... Somebody talked about doing this over beers last weekend. I think that is our best shot.
31 posted on 10/05/2002 5:07:36 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: flamefront
If you listened to the "fair & balanced" (snicker) FOX report ..Chief Moose said they had nothing...but fragments and couldnt link one murder to another...
The whole cloth head fed dog and pony show was just that pure unadulterated anti gun propaganda and using murder victims to promote it...
They have no idea what caliber weapon was used...only that they "think"...speculate on what bullet was used...they may have the base of a bullet to measure...but a 55 grain bullet is neither high velocity or particularly "devastating" compared to other bullets from other calibers.
The overhead waving of an M16 was a show and not based on any evidence..as Chief Moose said they have none...
The fed profiler also said they were looking at a white supremacist...gee just like they did after OK City?...they didnt look for Mulsims..and look what happend 09-11
The just picked up mulsim terrorists...mostly African Americans...U.S. citizens ...trained by foreign powers we are at war with...
So how come we are looking for a white supremacist?...
And then the word is out we are looking for hispanics...
Maybe Patrice Lamumba whats his face knows...his daddy was a panther...and apples dont fall too far from the trees...
This is getting curiouser and curiouser minute by minute
32 posted on 10/05/2002 5:09:02 PM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: flamefront
I don't doubt it is a white supremacist, they are on the same side as the mooselums. Those pinheads should all be locked up and I don't care who they vote for.
33 posted on 10/05/2002 5:10:33 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: flamefront
And I thought they were looking for a Middle Eastern Hispanic. Those Latin Arabs have a reputation.
34 posted on 10/05/2002 5:16:02 PM PDT by Consort
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To: HairOfTheDog
"If we don't look like we want this guy caught, then who are we?"

When did I ever indicate that I didn't "want this guy caught?" Hmmm? Please be specific. Having taken an oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, I must ask: which clause of the Constitution allows the Federal government to restrict firearms ownership?

Again, please be specific.

;>)

35 posted on 10/05/2002 5:17:29 PM PDT by Who is John Galt?
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To: jammer
 I'll even bet the SOB smokes.

It did say 'drug user,
 so he probably drinks, too.

36 posted on 10/05/2002 5:19:09 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: flamefront
chief moose:

thurs and fri: we are casting a wide net. we are not ruling anything out.

sat: the man who is in custody is not a suspect.




am i missing something (other than my sanity - i work in kensington 50 yards away from the last shooting, and live in silver spring)

37 posted on 10/05/2002 5:26:09 PM PDT by heavy12773
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To: Who is John Galt?
Read the posts, not just yours, the others too... How does it sound to you? This is how it sounds to me...

Many on this short thread have already expressed more fear and loathing of gun control advocates or uninformed media, than support of the FBI in finding the menaces that are doing this. Where are the exclamations of hope that he is caught quickly? The calls to keep our eyes out? - The Amber alert mentality? Where are the attempts to help correct the media on what the proper terms for describing the weapons are? - They don't know, so tell them. We need to be helpful is all.

Our reactions are important. If we want to keep our guns, we must support law enforcement in catching bad guys. First. Enthusiastically. Honorably. Then maybe we won't look like the same thing as a bad guy to the average Mom in tennis-shoes.
38 posted on 10/05/2002 5:30:15 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: John Lenin
I don't doubt it is a white supremacist, they are on the same side as the mooselums.

And his targets are based on what ?
39 posted on 10/05/2002 5:30:36 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: HairOfTheDog
Then maybe we won't look like the same thing as a bad guy to the average Mom in tennis-shoes... or the average TV reporter...

Food for thought.

40 posted on 10/05/2002 5:34:58 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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