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To: Cachelot; All
Far from "exploding", the American public would probably snivel a bit about how much bad karma America has accrued by not helping the arabs delete Israel from the map. And then they'd start looking for a synagogue to burn.

The solipsism-begotten bigotry in this statement pushes the poster beyond the realm of pedestrian imbecility into the realm of blood libel. But rather than press the abuse button, I shall merely highlight the libelous and bigotted nature of Cachelot's post.

To begin with, neither did my father and father-in-law seek out sanctuaries of worship to bomb in retaliation for the bombings of Pearl Harbor, nor have I, nor have any papists of my acquaintance, sought out mosques (or synagogues, in your tortured reasoning) to bomb in retaliation for the multiple bombings of the WTC by radical moslem culture warriors -- in which children perished in greater numbers than in any school attack on record, to my knowledge. We have striven to throw off some of the fanaticism that was an unfortunate part of an ancient inheritance.

More than 100 years ago George Santayana gave expression to an insight that shines light deeply into Cachelot's post:

"...Throughout its tranformations, however, Christianity remains indebted to the Jews not only for its founder, but for the nucleus of its dogma...

...What was condemnable in the Jews was not that they asserted the divinity of their law, for that they did with substantial sincerity and truth. Their crime is to have denied the equal prerogative of other nations' laws and deities, for this they did, not from critical insight or intellectual scruples, but out of pure bigotry, conceit, and stupidity. They did not want other nations to have a god. The moral government of the world, with which the Jews are praised for having first asserted, did not mean for them that nature shows a generic benevolence toward life and reason wherever they arise. Such a moral government might have been conceived by a pagan philosopher and was not taught in Israel until, selfishness having been outgrown, the birds and the heathen were also placed under divine protection. What the moral government of things meant when it was first asserted was that Jehovah expressly directed the destinies of heathen nations and the course of nature itself for the final glorification of the Jews.

No civilised people had ever had such pretensions before. They all recognized one another's religions, if not as literally true (for some familiarity is needed to foster that illusion), certainly as more or less sacred and significant. Had the Jews not rendered themselves odious to mankind by this arrogance, and taught Christians and Moslems the same fanaticism, the nature of religion would not have been falsified among us and we should not now have so much to apologize for and to retract......"

The suggestion that most grieving American fathers would rush from their child's broken body in search of a synagogue to burn, the bigotry expressed against my ancestors, me, and my posterity by Cachelot's post is an affront I could not let pass.

PS, is it truly wise to blood-libel those who are as responsible as any for the continuing existence of Israel as a nation state in its present locale?

27 posted on 10/05/2002 12:53:54 PM PDT by SwimmingUpstream
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To: SwimmingUpstream
Had the Jews not rendered themselves odious to mankind by this arrogance...

Hmmmmmmmmmm... disjointed, hysterical and toroughly strange.

is an affront I could not let pass.

Feel free to run your ffront into the nearest wall.

PS, is it truly wise to blood-libel those who are as responsible as any for the continuing existence of Israel as a nation state in its present locale?

Luckily, you are not responsible for Israel's continued existence ;). Other factors, such as Israel's nuclear forces (the third or fourth largest in the world), will see to that.

28 posted on 10/05/2002 1:45:06 PM PDT by Cachelot
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