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WHEN DEMOCRATS TALK ABOUT SAVING SOCIAL SECURITY, WATCH OUT!
RNC Research & Strategic Planning Department ^
| 3 October 2002
| Republican National Committee
Posted on 10/03/2002 6:16:49 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: Howlin
It is disgusting and Sean was just talking about it on Hannity & Colmes. He is totally PO'd about it!
To: Ragtime Cowgirl
This raises my blood pressure even more watching their RAT spokesman.
To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Mindy is a good spokesperson and she always looks so clean and honest compared to the hacks the RATS put on!
To: Wait4Truth
are you watching this rat bit$h on Hannity.....SSI trust fund....just once I would like to see a reporter go to the Treasury Bldg with a camera and ask to see the fund or lock box.
To: mystery-ak
I connect the "lock box" with "algore"...and I feel the same way about both...need I say more? LOL!
To: *Social Security
To: PhiKapMom; Wait4Truth
Here you are! Mindy and Sean won. YEA! I don't think the Dems. are used to being confronted and debated on any issue...they've owned the soapbox for so many years. We're mad as H&*% ...after Daschle and 9-11, etc.,etc., so they want a fight...they got a fight.
To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Wasn't that great! Sean wouldn't let the RAT get by with her yelling and covering up what Mindy was saying! Sean just gets better and better. It is the moron other half that bugs me in total. Half the time he has his facts wrong or at least half the time!
To: PhiKapMom
I'm under 26. I'm screwed by SS. It burns me up that i'm going to lose hundreds of thousands of dollars over my life to this @E$@#$#ing SCAM!
I point this out to liberal friends and they acknowledge it but, it's so far off, they don't seem to care. I feel like I'm trapped in a nightmare and can't wake up.
I want completely out of SS as well as Medicare and Medicaid. I've had too much experience recently with Medicare, but I know firsthand how worthlessly inefficient it is. It is worthless. The people there are bureaucrats, so they hate their lives, their jobs, and you for interrupting their tax-payer subsidized coffee-drinking time.
Republicans must do some figures on what young people will make and what they'll pay and lose into this rathole and do an MTV-style ad campaign to reach the young voters. I'm not sure it would work, but something needs to reach the yong people who don't know this problem exists and how they will be personally adversely affected by it.
To: MichiganConservative
I agree with you 100%! I think it should be optional myself! I cannot believe with Medicare there is no cut-off on the amount you make and can stop donating! Instead medicare takes a certain percentage all the way up to the highest salary. That is just flat out wrong!
To: PhiKapMom
Re: Medicare
You pay into it all of your working life and then, when you get old and want to use medicare, you have to liquidate all of your assets except $2000 and your house. That is flat-out morally wrong.
Maybe i'm naive, but a private health insurance policy wouldn't have such a "destitution" clause. At least, I wouldn't sign it if it did. Yeah, those politicians care. They care about spending your money on another hunk of concrete with Robert Byrd's name on it.
To: MichiganConservative
"liquidate" should be "get rid of"
To: MichiganConservative
Everything you have said is what I believe as well.
There are so many better options but everytime one is mentioned the AARP goes ballistic even when they are told it doesn't affect the people drawing SS money today. You would think people were taking the food out of their mouths the way they talk.
Don't think anyone with medical insurance should be required to pay into medicare for all those years when a lot of people will never use it because they have medical plans that go into retirement. Personally I think it is a rip off!
To: PhiKapMom
Forwarded fact sheet.
FDR's phrase was "some small measure".
Of a piece with "the withering away of the dictatorship of the proletariat.
It's blood-sucking pure and simple.
None would be best.
To: PhiKapMom
Bush's comission has recognized that many elderly women are living in poverty because of the quirks in the social security system. I know women who are trying to make it on social security retirement of $450/mo. I think most Americans with an average income of $40,000 a year assume that seniors are well taken care of and would be shocked to meet people who worked all of their lives and are old and poor.
Typically, Dems programs abuse the people they claim to care about with little stipends. Meanwhile, they rip off the taxpayers so that they retire to elegant landed estates.
Furthermore, it is clear to me that they were up to their eyes in hyping the "new economy" and creating the tech speculative bubble.
To: ClaireSolt
You are so right about a lot of older women who survive on very little. They really need help and should have been helped years ago instead of the DemocRATs going around scaring them.
AARP has done a louzy job too IMO as they have fallen for the same scare tactics and reported them to their members as the truth. That to me is irresponsible on their part.
My Mom told AARP to take their magazine and keep it several years ago after they kept lying in articles.
To: PhiKapMom
Medicare needs drastic overhauling. Anyone who has had to deal with them on behalf of elderly parents knows this. Furthermore, most people do not realize that once you get to be 65, you MUST use Medicare. If you are eligible for Medicare, that is how the doctor must be paid. Period.
Many people who have not dealt with this program are unaware of the problems, including hospitals dumping elderly and sick people as soon as the approved time for their stay is up, regardless of how sick they are or whether there is someone to care for them at home. This is done because the hospitals cannot afford to keep people for free, and Medicare will not pay for extra days.
Plus, seven years ago when my dad was sick, there wasn't even a local office to complain to...you had to call Illinois long distance on your own dime (and you know how many older people are afraid to use long distance because of the expense) and then talk to a barely intelligible, rude, bureaucrat to try and get a problem resolved.
I would like to see Senator Frist establish an investigatory commission on this whole situation.
To: Miss Marple
I would like to see Senator Frist establish an investigatory commission on this whole situation.You are right -- that is exactly what should happen. Time the facts were put out and something done instead of the scare tactics each election and nothing gets accomplished.
The SS office in Columbus used to put a balloon on someone's desk when they turned down a claim as well. I would love to see the entire system revamped.
To: PhiKapMom
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10/04/2002 8:06:10 AM PDT
by
blackie
To: PhiKapMom
Thanks for the ping. I think the ad is despicable.
Wait! I think I'm subconsciously being tempted to put McAuliffe in a wheel chair to see how effective it would be to throw him off a cliff...a steep cliff.
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10/05/2002 8:22:16 AM PDT
by
IVote2
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