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Hmmm, obviously you don't read carefully. I stated plainly that I did not support or uphold what was done in Manchuria or the rest of China...by Russia. As for colonization...my point is not that it happened and there fore was bad, but the way it happened. Like it or not, the Tsars did not have the blood of the indigenous peoples on their hands like the US government did. As for Finland 1939...go read up who was in charge, because there was no Russia at that time. And it was a Georgian who ruled an empire.

As for race card....there are quite a few on FR who are Russophobic to the extreme and have stated over and over that we would be better of genocided. The characteristics they usually tag to us are no different then the ones the Nazies tag to Jews.

I don't hate Western culture, but I am not stupid enough to swallow it all up. I prefer a critical examination of the reality of the culture. Take the good, get rid of the bad...try that some time.

As for Westerners...considering the Kaiser's gold financed the Revolution and the Soviets into power...yes it was the West's fault. Just like the fact that Ford and Armnhammer helped build up Stalin and American Intelligencia supported him with propaganda and funds.

Hmmm, obviously you don't read carefully. I stated plainly that I did not support or uphold what was done in Manchuria or the rest of China...by Russia.

The issue was never what you supported or what I supported. I responded to a long list of wars and actions by the United States by making a long list of wars and actions by what was the de facto Russian Empire be it nicknamed Mother Russia or be it named the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

As for colonization...my point is not that it happened and there fore was bad, but the way it happened. Like it or not, the Tsars did not have the blood of the indigenous peoples on their hands like the US government did.

That any colonization spanning a continent is accomplished without warfare is a fairy tale to be believed by children on both sides of the Atlantic.

1717: Russian expedition to Khiva ends in a massacre of Tsarist troops.
1820s-40s: Kazakh revolts against Russian rule.
1837/38-46/47: Kazakh resistance to Russian rule under Kenesary Kasimov.
1865: The Russians capture Tashkent.
1868: The Russians capture Samarkand.
1873: Russians capture Khiva.
1881: The Russian slaughter of the Turkmens at the Battle of Gok-Tepe in which 150,000 Turkmen were killed
1890's: Uzbek revolts against Russian rule put down.
1916:Kazakh, Kyrgyz, Turkmen, and Uzbek rebel against Russian land confiscation, conscription

America's colonization was not bloodless. Neither was Russia's.

As for Finland 1939......go read up who was in charge, because there was no Russia at that time. And it was a Georgian who ruled an empire.

The analogous argument be:

"As for the invasion of Russia in 1940...go read up who was in charge, because there was no Germany at the time because we called it the Third Reich and it included other regions that Germany had conquered previously. And it was an Austrian who ruled the Third Reich."

You have never heard that and you will never hear that from me. I am of Cuban birth and could begrudge Russia and all Russians for the support of the Communist oppression in Cuba. However, I am careful to differentiate between nationalities and individuals. My 12 year old daughter has a Russian schoolfriend who speaks Russian at home and my daughter has become intrigued by Russian to the point that she has taught herself the Cyrillic alphabet and can read Russian phonetically. In addition, we and other parents have hired a private schoolteacher that teaches 9 children in our house Monday thrugh Friday. That Russian child is therefore under my roof five days a week.

I don't hate Western culture, but I am not stupid enough to swallow it all up. I prefer a critical examination of the reality of the culture. Take the good, get rid of the bad...try that some time.

Your stated outlook is the same as what I believe. If you look back at my posts, you will not find a single reference to any action, right or wrong, taken by the United States. My references have been to Russia because I believe that you are attacking the United States for conduct done by every major power in the last 200 years, including the Russian Empire, pre and post Tsar.

The term "Westerners" is a very loose term. The Romans considered themselves "Westerners" and the Greeks "Easterners". The Chinese consider the Greeks "Westerners". Americans consider everybody on the other side of the Atlantic, including Russia, as "Europeans" and almost every white American is descendent from an ancestor that came to America to get away from the problems and strife of Europe and to escape the ideologies and social order of Europe.

While the German Kaiser was spending his gold in his incredibly foolish aid of Bolshevism, Britain, France and America were spending their gold and blood to try to defeat the Kaiser. What Germany did in 1917 was not "The West's" fault. It was Germany's fault.

In regard to the "American Intelligencia", there is no doubt that it is a Communist-loving group. The American Intelligencia is also dominated by individuals of a certain ethnic and religious persuasion who usually trace their ancestry to lands ruled by Tsarist Russia in the 1800's.

While living in these Russian lands, these people were routinely subjected to pogroms. As time went by, many of these individuals, with a deep haterd of the Tsar, adopted the Bolshevik ideology. If the Russian Tsar is bad, then any ideology that fights the Russian Tsar must be good, they reasoned. Some stayed in Russia and helped create the hell on earth that was the Soviet Union. Others immigrated to the U.S. and continued to believe that Bolshevism was the way to Paradise and strove to replace the American values they found in their new country with the values of Bolshevism.

During the 1930's, 1940's and 1950's, some betrayed the United States with espionage in order to aid the Worker's Paradise that they believed the Soviet Union to be.

Funny, isn't it.

You blame "The West" for Communism.

I blame Russia for Communism.

Maybe we can split the difference and agree to blame Central Europe in general and Germany in particular for Communism. ;-)