What has happened to U.S.?

Me | 10/2/2002 | Me

[UnBlinkingEye]

Why am I wrong to say this? Show me how the Republicrats are supporting the Constitution.

[Texasforever]

Why am I wrong to say this? Show me how the Republicrats are supporting the Constitution.

I am not here to educate an obviously infantile teenager that throws out charges and accusations just to get a reaction. Your parents should sue you for the money they wasted on your education.

[Stavka2]

Actually, the CIA supported the over throw of an elected government in Syria and it's replacement with a dictator...happened all over Latin America too.

[KingKongCobra]

That's it. Moron alert. You've reached critical ignorance.

[Stavka2]

The Sha was an autocrat who was placed on the throne by the CIA over a much better government, the Iotolas were a blowback from that little enterprise. As for Vietnam, it shouldn't have ever happened but for arrogant, narrow minded people in charge.

[Texasforever]

True, Clinton did screw up in Mogadishu, but it wasn't just him. Klinton had a tendency to follow the polls and they all went south with the casualties. As for Afghanistan, the US didn't fight, it bombed, unless you consider a few hundred special forces...there was a proxy army doing all the bleeding and many did just that, bled and bled. So no, that doesn't count. As for Bosnia, dropping bombs from 10,000 feet, mostly on civilians isn't exactly fighting either.

Well given your recent posts I would hazard a guess that you really don't think much of this country anyway. Do you live in the United States?

[Stavka2]

Makedonia is another. Looking the other way on Cyprus? The slaughter of the Kurds in E. Turkey? Operation Storm. As a matter of fact, during the Bangledeshi war of independence, while US allie Pakistan was slaughtering millions and the Soviet allie India was moving to intervene, Nixon moved the 6th Fleet over to threaten India....to let the Pakistanies slaughter away. Interesting thing, history. Oh, well, there's the Indian Tribes, Mexico, 1812 in Canada, attacking the elected Confederacy and the Spanish American war to name a few.

[Texasforever]

The Sha was an autocrat who was placed on the throne by the CIA over a much better government, the Iotolas were a blowback from that little enterprise. As for Vietnam, it shouldn't have ever happened but for arrogant, narrow minded people in charge.

Yeah Iran was really a hell hole under the Shah. It is now paradise on earth. Take your Agitprop to those that fall for it Comrade.

[Stavka2]

You mean like the Saudies who flew planes into the WTC...they definitly weren't Iraqies....but remember what UNCLE tells you: Iraqi bad! Saudi good!

[Route66]

When we find 'criminals' in our government we work to get them out. When honorable men and women step up to lead we support them. It is our system. All of us feel frustration at times and sometimes it works better than others, but we don't give up on it.

"We have a proclaimed policy of attacking any country whose policies or regimes don't follow our dictates."

This is a vast overstatement. If it were true we would have attacked nearly every nation in the world by now. I can't think of one nation that always does what we tell them to do. Even our friends are at odds with us a good percentage of the time. Why does it make you feel better to hate your own country so much?

[Texasforever]

Makedonia is another. Looking the other way on Cyprus? The slaughter of the Kurds in E. Turkey? Operation Storm. As a matter of fact, during the Bangledeshi war of independence, while US allie Pakistan was slaughtering millions and the Soviet allie India was moving to intervene, Nixon moved the 6th Fleet over to threaten India....to let the Pakistanies slaughter away. Interesting thing, history. Oh, well, there's the Indian Tribes, Mexico, 1812 in Canada, attacking the elected Confederacy and the Spanish American war to name a few.

The "Soviet Empire" is on the ash-heap of history. Interesting thing history.

[vbmoneyspender]

Name me a democratically elected gov't in Latin America that we overthrew.

BTW, I think you are still disappointed that the Soviets lost the cold war.

[Texasforever]

Name me a democratically elected gov't in Latin America that we overthrew.

He is pissed that we kicked the Soviets asses back to their own hemisphere. I guess they didn't believe the Monroe Doctrine.

[vbmoneyspender]

Ignore Stavka2 -- he is the moron who kept predicting on this site how Afghanistan was going to turn into a hellhole for the U.S. Practically everytime he posted during the leadup to October of 2001, he bragged about how the Slavic Russians were much better fighters than the Americans and how if the Slavic Russians couldn't beat the Afghanis then the silly Americans wouldn't be able to do it either.

[Texasforever]

Yeah if the great Soviet Empire could not defeat a bunch of 5th century rabble in 10 years then the United States stood no chance. Interesting thing history. LOL

[fire_eye]

What has happened to our image as a beacon of freedom, opportunity and the right way to live?

Gosh, I dunno, there, Mr. Unseeing Eye... Maybe you should ask all people who keep trying to GET IN here?

Much of the world fears or hates us.

Good. From what I've seen of "most of the world", coming from them that's a compliment.

We have a proclaimed policy of attacking any country whose policies or regimes don't follow our dictates.

You mean, like, North Korea and China? When's the attack? (And where do I sign up?)

Why have we become the biggest bully in the world?

Because "The World" proved in the last century that it couldn't manage its own affairs, and needs the U.S. to keep its didies clean. Sometimes Mommy has to spank Junior when he misbehaves. Read history, get a clue, deal with it.

There... < < yaaaAAAWWWwwwnnnnn..... > > all your questions are answered. Feel better now?

[vbmoneyspender]

Imagine taking as your handle the headquarters for the Red Army during World War II- Stavka

[Texasforever]

I see he has slipped under the covers. The guy is a disgrace to this site.

[Stavka2]

Yup, unless they are the Serbs, Kurds, Cypriots, Hindus, Christians in Indonesia, Chinese Christians, Bangladeshies or various other groups that can be easily ignored.

Look, not saying the US is a bad country, far from it, but as usual, everyone forgot what George Washington warned about and then can't figure out why so many nations and peoples turn against America. The US really can't go it alone in the world, just from the Economic point, much of the US economy is built on exports of products and imports of resources...and there is quite a bit of compition out there.

[Stavka2]

You're funny about the Soviets...if it wasn't for Western Intellectuals, there wouldn't have been a Soviet Union, or WW2 or Korea, Vietnam or the Cold War....I'm ooooh so disappointed that only 30 million of my people got to get killed by Western Intellectually sponsored terror. Yup, you sure got me pegged.

Well one example, right off the bat would be Chile...not saying Pinoche was bad, but he did overthrow with CIA support an elected government...the same CIA that has sponsored death squads from Guatemala to Cuba.