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1 posted on 10/02/2002 6:45:13 PM PDT by Freedom4USA
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To: Freedom4USA
And you found this where and who wrote it ?
2 posted on 10/02/2002 6:48:05 PM PDT by Lecie
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To: Freedom4USA
Another cowardly University Professor....won't do it himself
but will "encourage", under cover of a disclaimer, other
cowardly anarchist to act.....
3 posted on 10/02/2002 6:50:36 PM PDT by larry h
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To: Freedom4USA
Please provide a link for credibility...
4 posted on 10/02/2002 6:54:01 PM PDT by Vidalia
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To: Freedom4USA
However, Austin rejected the plea offer

If there isn't a lot more to the story than related here, then I actually applaud his integrity not to plead guilty to something he is not guilty of. I could see a "no contest" plea but not a "guilty" plea. His activity probably ought to be illegal, and if anybody ever used these plans to create mayhem he should have his pants sued off, but I don't think it's illegal since the only apparent intent is to be stunningly tasteless.

5 posted on 10/02/2002 6:54:43 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Freedom4USA
I'm not sure if this is it, but a quick google search turned up something called www.raisethefist.com
6 posted on 10/02/2002 6:55:58 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Freedom4USA
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8 posted on 10/02/2002 7:07:38 PM PDT by ffrancone
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To: Freedom4USA
Touretsky has a site that tells you where to look for information on CSS descramblers, a way of getting around the CD music copyright laws.

It's at http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/DeCSS/Gallery/.

Bomb making would seem to be a more serious matter. I'd like to see a link for it.

9 posted on 10/02/2002 7:10:04 PM PDT by Cicero
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To: Freedom4USA
Hey, nothing enhances your life expectancy quite like taking explosives advice from an amateur Che wannabe. He forgot the part about testing the impact fuse with a claw hammer...
10 posted on 10/02/2002 7:10:25 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Freedom4USA
In the current climate of fear and concern, why would any loyal American publish such information on the Web? Indeed, as we reflect on the anniversary of the September 11th terrorist strike, including the tragic crash of United Flight 93 in Somerset County, Pennsylvania, less than 100 miles from Carnegie Mellon University where Touretzky teaches, one can only wonder what his true intentions really are.

Maybe because --

First, terrorists aleady know how to make bombs.

Second, those aircraft were brought down with $1.99 boxcutters available at your local True Value hardware store, not bombs.

13 posted on 10/02/2002 7:17:39 PM PDT by mpoulin
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To: Freedom4USA
"Make sure that you will not injure anyone that you do not intend to injure."

Wow, that's damning.

16 posted on 10/02/2002 7:38:45 PM PDT by Jonathon Spectre
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To: Freedom4USA
Touretzky's site includes links to purchase copies of such books as Home Workshop Explosives, Improvised Munitions Black Book, Silent Death (book on chemical and biological weapons manufacture & distribution), and the Anarchist Cookbook.

My understanding is that most of the instructions in the Anarchist Cookbook if followed will result in death of the would-be anarchist. I don't have a problem with that.

Bomb making instructions have been public for a long time. Whether they're on the Internet or not makes little difference. I have a much greater problem with government-funded abortion which guarantees the death of an innocent.

20 posted on 10/02/2002 8:06:21 PM PDT by altair
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To: Freedom4USA; Squantos
Recipes and formulas by "One Eyed Smittie" and "Five Fingers Jones".
22 posted on 10/02/2002 8:29:10 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Freedom4USA
If a government is worried about its subjects knowing how to blow up its officials, the solution is not to put the genie back in the bottle, but to obey the Constitution.

A fearful government is a good government.
25 posted on 10/02/2002 8:50:49 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed
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To: Freedom4USA
Hmmm. Interesting. The Feds were after Sherman Austin for quite a while.

He was calling for armed overthrow of the USA. He actually at one time had plotted to get loads of military uniforms so his band of rebels would be properly clothed for a fight when they took it to the street and assault weapons for them to use. He had also been trying to get a pilot to join up with them or raise enough cash to train a pilot so they could use a plane to assault major targets in the USA- like Washington DC. Some of his bomb making instructions (when I read his sight many months ago) stressed that you wanted to make sure to just "blow up the cop" not any innocent bystanders.

I suppose it wasn't really the content that set the feds off- it was what he was wanting to do- IMHO.

27 posted on 10/02/2002 9:12:32 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: Freedom4USA
I'm another one who owns most of the books listed in this article. I've had them since I was a teenager, even before the federal government spent money explicitely teaching me how to kill people ;)

They can take away guns, but it's much harder to take away knowledge.

31 posted on 10/02/2002 10:17:02 PM PDT by Britton J Wingfield
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To: Freedom4USA
College Professor Puts up Federally Funded Website that Teaches How to Kill

Oh, < < yaAAWWWwwwnnn...... > >

The learned professor has now proven himself to be an overgrown adolescent. I just hope the FBI has enough brains (yeah, I know) to just laugh at him.

I also hope lots of idiots try making everything in all of his references, especially the heavily nitrated stuff. That ought to improve the gene pool a whole bunch.

32 posted on 10/02/2002 10:52:29 PM PDT by fire_eye
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To: Freedom4USA

 

 

Dave Touretzky's Page

Who, what, where?

I'm a Principal Scientist in the Computer Science Department and the Center for the Neural Basis of Cognition at Carnegie Mellon University.

 

Research interests: Neural representation of space in rodents (e.g., hippocampus), and in robots. Computational neuroscience. Animal learning.

 


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33 posted on 10/02/2002 10:58:30 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: Freedom4USA
Linked from the professor's university-based website:

http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/raisethefist/

What the FBI Doesn't Want You to See at RaisetheFist.com

News reports about the raisethefist.com case:

Search Warrant and
Affidavit of Special Agent John I. Pi

This is the search warrant and affidavit filed by the FBI prior to the raid on Sherman Austin's home in Sherman Oaks, California. (Document provided by cryptome.org.)

Second Affidavit from John I. Pi

This second affidavit from FBI special agent John I. Pi, dated February 5, 2002, contains information from his interview of Sherman Austin during the January 24 raid. (Document provided by cryptome.org.)

Plea Agreement

Sherman Austin signed this plea agreement in preparation for his guilty plea on September 30, 2002. But the judge rejected the plea agreement.

On January 24, 2002, the FBI raided the home of Sherman Martin Austin, the 18 year old owner/operator of the anarchist web site RaisetheFist.com. A few days later, Mark Burdett published an email interview in which Austin stated:

"They [the FBI] told me the main reason for the raid was because of the content on the site, and they wanted to see who was looking at it. This was not the main reason. It was an excuse. The alledged content which they claim they were so concerned about is from the Reclaim Guide."

I have mirrored the Reclaim Guide at Carnegie Mellon.

The search warrant does refer to the file reclaim.html and several associated files. But it also cites evidence that Austin has hacked into computer systems, defaced web sites, launched denial-of-service attacks against other computer systems, and operated a web site for selling stolen stereos. A subsequent Newsbytes article revealed that Austin has admitted to defacing web sites in order to spread his political message. That alone seems adequate reason to arrest and charge him.

I'm a registered Republican, so needless to say, I don't agree with Sherman Austin's politics, much less his actions. But I'm curious why the FBI would include this Reclaim Guide as part of their justification for raiding a private citizen's home and carting off all his computers and political literature. Since when is it illegal to write about explosives? According to the search warrant, Austin was violating Title 18, United States Code, Section 842(p), which makes it unlawful to:

A well-written government report on the constitutionality of this statute has been made available by Cryptome, along with some background information on how Senators Feinstein and Biden got the statute passed back in 1997.

Since I personally do not advocate any type of violent behavior, and my intent in mirroring the Reclaim Guide is not to facilitate such behavior, but rather to encourage public scrutiny of the government's application of the statute, my mirror does not appear to violate the statute.

The public scrutiny I desire has in fact occurred, as can be seen in discussion board postings at Slashdot and Cryptome, for example.

I think the statute is silly. It cannot be an effective deterrent to dissemination of information about explosives, because you can purchase plenty of good info at Amazon.com, such as Home Workshop Explosives, or Improvised Munitions Black Book. And don't forget William Powell's 30+ year old Anarchist Cookbook; be sure to read the this Salon article and the author's own comments posted on the Amazon page. For weapons of mass destruction (chemical and biological), Amazon offers Silent Death, Second Edition, the reference supposedly used by the Aum cult.

Public libraries are also much better sources of explosives information than the pathetic Reclaim Guide. This does not mean the above statute has no use, however. It can be used to pile additional charges on someone whom the government wants to prosecute for other reasons. Whether that is a legitimate purpose for a statute is, I think, worthy of public debate.

Austin's crucial mistake would seem to be putting the explosives information on the same web site as his anarchist protest rhetoric. Publishing the same information on a different site would apparently have shielded him from prosecution.

An interesting feature of the seizure procedure described in the search warrant, pointed out by John Young at Cryptome, is this wording:

iii. Any data that is encrypted and unreadable will not be returned unless law enforcement personnel have determined that the data is not (1) an instrumentality of the offense, (2) a fruit of the criminal activity, (3) contraband, (4) otherwise unlawfully possessed, or (5) evidence of the offense specified above.
On what legal basis can the government refuse to return a private citizen's files merely because they are encrypted?
Besides the Reclaim Guide, an additional file from the same exit directory on Sherman Austin's site can be found here. Some files that I was not able to find in Google's cache or at www.archive.org are www.raisethefist.com/exit/1.html through 7.html. If you have these files, I'd appreciate a copy. Email preferred, but hardcopy can be mailed to:

Dr. David S. Touretzky
Computer Science Department Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213-3891

Visit my other free speech projects: Secrets of Scientology, Gallery of CSS Descramblers, Gallery of Adobe Remedies, and Amway/Alticor/Quixtar Sucks!


Court Stuff, from Cryptome

Court Docket

2-7-2002: Detention Hearing Transcript


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34 posted on 10/02/2002 11:17:15 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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