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Ex-Senator (Lautenberg) to Replace Torricelli
AP via Yahoo ^ | 10/01/02 | JOHN P. McALPIN

Posted on 10/01/2002 6:03:54 PM PDT by eddie willers

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To: MJY1288
This is the end for them for many years to come.

It damn well better be. If they get away with this and win this seat, my faith in the political process will be forever shattered. The Dems are crooks and they are so bloody callous about it. Talk about a banana republic. The US election system has become a laughing stock.

81 posted on 10/01/2002 6:29:42 PM PDT by Wphile
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To: Wphile
You know how the saying goes..."there's no honor among thieves."
82 posted on 10/01/2002 6:29:53 PM PDT by for-q-clinton
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To: dirtboy
New Jersey and Floriduh. Perfect together.

Ah, they very well could be the same voters, you know? :-)

83 posted on 10/01/2002 6:30:03 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: MJY1288
"This is the end for them for many years to come"

Is there not one dimmocrat who will stand up and insist his or her political party obey the laws they took an oath to uphold?

This is atonishing.

84 posted on 10/01/2002 6:30:11 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: eddie willers
While Clinton and others claim they want to "close loopholes," in reality they seek to ban the transfer of firearms between individuals, forcing all sales to go through the National Instant Check System where they can be registered by the FBI. But at a March 2 press conference, Lautenberg let slip his real objective when he said, "We have other legislation that all of you are aware that I have been so active on, with my colleagues here, that is to shut down the gun shows." Clinton maintains he will not accept a bill which does not contain the gun show measure.
85 posted on 10/01/2002 6:30:13 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Right_in_Virginia
LOL!
86 posted on 10/01/2002 6:31:06 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: MileHi
Linda Chavez said on Sean Hannity that of course it is a done deal. She said there is no way that Torricelli would have withdrawn unless they knew they would get a favorable ruling from the NJSC. She also said the SCOTUS will not take the case. This is a state issue.

Hope she is wrong but I think she is right.

87 posted on 10/01/2002 6:31:38 PM PDT by Wphile
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To: Torie
They're doing it right in front of your eyes.
88 posted on 10/01/2002 6:31:52 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Right_in_Virginia
Yeah, where is Zell Miller?
89 posted on 10/01/2002 6:32:43 PM PDT by Wphile
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To: Right_in_Virginia
Contact Zell Miller, why don't you?
90 posted on 10/01/2002 6:33:12 PM PDT by txrangerette
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To: Jonathon Spectre
Ah, so it was just his relationship. No illegalities, no crimes, no bribes, no manipulation of the highest level governments in exchange for cash and gifts. Just a relationship.

Chris Matthews was on MSNBC this morning being a pundit.

He said he likes Torricelli.

He characterized his "problems" just as you have summarized and alluded to Chang being unfamiliar with the law.

Does he honestly not know that Torricelli made the arrangements himself?

91 posted on 10/01/2002 6:33:27 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: ELS; antonius; Bars4Bill; Big Tony Soprano; Betteboop; dead; exit82; Ziva
Your thoughts, NJ FReepers?
92 posted on 10/01/2002 6:33:30 PM PDT by nutmeg
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To: MileHi
I bet money is changing hands and dead deamoncraps are lined up to vote. It ain't gonna be pretty.

I really don't think the Dems have a case, mostly because of Toricelli's speech. BECAUSE HE DID NOT ADMIT TO CRIMINAL WRONGDOING, and instead proclaimed he just made a few mistakes just like Bill Clinton did. The one previous precedent in NJ where the time cutoff was overridden by the courts was when a candidate died. But, because the Torch has neither been booted by the Senate nor convicted of wrongdoing, exactly what can the Dems claim as extrenuating circumstances? Nothing, other than the fact that they are losing in the polls with Toricelli.

I know the NJ Supreme Court is fairly liberal. But I simply cannot envision the faintest legal doctrine they can find to override the law. If Torch had confessed of criminal wrongdoing, they could claim he could not take the seat if elected. But they don't even have that.

93 posted on 10/01/2002 6:33:58 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: sissyjane
My poor husband better get used to a dirty house,no food, and a wife that mutters something about "dirty Rat-B--tards.

LOL!

LOL!

20 gallons of spaghetti sauce, 20 gallons of chili, 40 one-gallon size Tupperware bowls, and a new freezer.

Freedom ain't free.

94 posted on 10/01/2002 6:34:12 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: Howlin
They are so bloody brazen about the whole thing. This absolutely unbelievable to watch. If they get away with it, I may have to abandon the whole political process. It's such a frickin' joke and the rules don't matter, why the h*ll bother?
95 posted on 10/01/2002 6:34:25 PM PDT by Wphile
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To: Torie
As usual, when matters get complex, the media sucks.

Close, but not quite. When matters get complex, the media decides on the solution they prefer, present it as a fait accompli -- then do their best to ignore or out-talk any view that contradicts that.

The media is just as scared of a Republican victory as the DemonCRAP leadership and will do anything and everything they can to help prevent it.

96 posted on 10/01/2002 6:35:13 PM PDT by Ronin
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To: formerliberal_nowconservative
Lautenberg was just shown on FOX and he seemed confused. At 78, I think they have selected someone that appears confused.

Thats their out. If they could pull off this sham, then Lautenberg resigns for health reasons in February, and NJ Guv. appoints another RAT. The RATs even have enough nerve to appoint Torecelli back in.

97 posted on 10/01/2002 6:35:13 PM PDT by putupon
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To: cyncooper
If it was JUST A RELATIONSHIP, then why is one party to the relationship in JAIL and the other in the US SENATE????
98 posted on 10/01/2002 6:35:20 PM PDT by Wphile
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To: Howlin
What difference does it make what laws are passed in Washington DC when all they have to do is go to Court and change them anyway? Why waste all the time and effort and taxpayer money to even to bother to elect representatives?
99 posted on 10/01/2002 6:35:24 PM PDT by marajade
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To: Wphile
Dick Morris said on Hannity thathe thinks this will backfire on the RATS and Forrester....for once I hope he is right.
100 posted on 10/01/2002 6:35:30 PM PDT by mystery-ak
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