Milosevic Behind Yugoslav Break Up, Croat Leader Says

ma kakav inat?

maybe because he was a coward after all. Maybe because power was all he was interested in. He used the misery and he used the Serbian people's emotions in popular rallies only to stay in power. Because he avoided communication with outside and did nothing to present Serbian cause, Europe & USA saw Ghazeemestan as bolshevik Slobo presentating new wave communist force prime time. Not what it was supposed to be as Kosta thought I was intimidated. He did nothing for the Serbian cause except to use the question to gather popular support and stay in power. Even Dobrica Cosic initially was led to believe he should be there to help the Serbian cause, what ended in his bitter dissapointment.
Lol, Slobo was not only scared of the current world trends, but even the worlds weakest opposition in the 1st post-communist Serbian elections. tz,tz,tz...
Serbia and Serbs were in illusion with him, period.

Europe & USA saw Ghazeemestan as bolshevik Slobo presentating new wave communist force prime time

Some serious threat bolshevik Slobo was for the world! I can just see the headlines: "Speech at Gazimestan threatens Europe, US, as prime time bolshevik force."

This is the second time you bring up this speech, Tamodaleko. Did you read it in its entirety and in the context of events? Do you really find bolshevik communist force threatening the world in it? If so, please make your case by quoting relevant passages, and in context in which they were presented to that effect in his speech.

He avoided communication with the outside world for whatever reason. Is that a reason to dismember a country, violate the Helsinki Accords, violate the country's constitution by declaring unilateral independence, etc? If that is indeed so, countries would be falling apart left and right every day.

Look at the Northern Ireland, the Basque country, Corsica. Any chance any of those regions will declare independence and be recognized? The Basques and the Northern Ireland's Catholics have been waging a protracted guerilla warfare and terror tactics for years, yet there is no international force coming to thier aid as was the case with KLA. Obviously, things are a bit lobsided when it comes to Yugoslavia; the logic fails, and according to you it's all got to do with one single element who is responsable for absolutely everething and who can threaten the whole world -- Slobo.

It's a simplistic albeit comforting view to look at the world as black and white, as good versus evil. Blaming Slobo for absolutely everything that went wrong, even when he could not have known about it, is just tooooo simple for those who wish to know about the world on a more complex scale than a 3-year old.

I've pointed out Ghazeemestan as the 1st major event w/o foreign guests
(ambassadors, attaches, etc.).
Perhaps the 1st sign Serbs are en route to being isolated
and misunderstood.

As far as the speech and the context, I believe that's how the West looked at it, not me. And btw, why is it that Slobo still today has
trouble explaining his speech? Maybe because the west don't care
what the speech in entirety says anyways, but only what they want to
think it says. 1+1 may not be 2 after all, may be 11 ;)

Of course his avoiding outside contacts is not the reason to dismember
a country. But the Sloventzee, Crvatee, Albantzee were successful in presenting their case and got all the help to dismember the country. And made the whole UN feel good about it as well.

Slobo was at the top of the Serbian political elite at the most crucial time, most powerful Serb with overwhelming support, why not underline him as one who bares the most responsibility for todays Serbian position?

>>>>Look at the Northern Ireland, the Basque country, Corsica. Any chance any of those regions will declare independence and be recognized?<<<<

They don't have a chance against Britain, Spain & France. Neither would Sloventzee, Crvatee & Albantzee have against Serbs, if Serbia and Serb people was important to Serbian political elite.

As far as the speech and the context, I believe that's how the West looked at it, not me.

And maybe it's just how the west WANTED to look at it! They presented it to their public, the way THEY wanted the speech to be understood by their sheep!

But the Sloventzee, Crvatee, Albantzee were successful in presenting their case and got all the help to dismember the country. And made the whole UN feel good about it as well.

There wouldn't have been help for their cases by the big powers, if those powers were not out for the same goal-to dismember the country! The reason for that identical aim they had is more of geostrategic background, than of Croatian or Albanian ability to convince!

The reason for that identical aim they had is more of geostrategic background

That's one of several theories, but I don't believe it. If you were looking for "reliable allies," what would be your choice? Croats and/or Albanians? Besides, they are bound to be confronted over disputed issues sooner or later and lose (right now they are in denial).

Your choice should be the Serbs. They are a lot more stubborn, sometimes pathologically, and bound to defend their side even when it makes no sense to do so. That's the kind of ally you want!

Serbs prove themselves in this area every day: (1) they defended socialism and a one-party system as if it were a piece of gold, (2) they kept dying for Yugoslavia, a country that ruined Serbia,(3) They are probably the only former Yugoslav nation who still have a Yugoslav politicial party (the Yugoslav Left, or YUL), headed by Miloshevich's wife Mira Markovich, (4) They are still safeguarding the remains of Tito, their worst enemy, (5) Serbs were the last to reverse the 1950's Novi Sad agreement that established the so-called Serbo-Croatian "language," knowing all too well that such a thing does not exist, that that language is common to all Serbs but not to all Croats, (6) The only people who retained a clumsy, costly and unnecessary, two-alphabet system instead of reverting back to the traditional Cyrillic, and so on...

If you can get people like that to stand on your side, they will be defending it even after you have abandoned the cause long ago (which will give you plenty of time to find new friends and allies...)

Serbs are immensly talented when it comes to defending losing or outright stupid causes. One of the more glaring ones was the reform of the Cyrillic alphabet in the mid-1800's.

The reform created a much more phonetic system, but the system is not entirely phonetic. The inventor kept assuring the Serbian ruler that it is the "smartest alphabet in all of Europe." To his surprise and anger, Europe didn't line up to emmulate it and today European litteracy is on the par if not higher than where Serbian is written.

Neither of the major languages of the world is phonetic, so phonetics are a good but not necessary attribute of a language to be great. Try selling that cocnept to the Serbs!

The same "genius" who created the "smartest" alphabet in all of Europe, also decided to simplify the writing rules -- so that any Serbs can read and write without much trouble. So, he came up with a dogmatic sound-good slogan: write the was you speak, and read the way it's written. Apparently he forgot to consider the various Serbian dialects and variations in the so-called reflexive forms of the letter yat.

This "smartest" system to this date does not have a uniformed codified writing rules and grammar that satisfieis everyone's idea of how one should write, so everyone writes as they see fit. Great!

Next time you are looking for an ally who is willing to die for a losing cause, and more than willing to ignore that it is, in fact, a losing cause, call on the Serbs.

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