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To: VadeRetro
You showed me what about them? Are you capable of standing back and looking at the kind of stuff you post when I present you with evidence? You degenerate to chanting "Blah! Blah! Blah!" and counting every time I said "could" or "tends" or "evidence." "Evidence" is the name of the game, by the way. "Proof" is for Geometry class.

Dotted lines and assumptions, this is what I was pointing out to you. You’re allowed to infer and your data is the only data that is correct. Do you see ‘this’? You claim proof all the time…

You tend to screech and jabber "That's not it! Anything but that! Look how many ways I can confuse myself! Look how I can misunderstand! Look at how much I can ignore! Look how much I can forget, making you get out the same old weary articles and pictures over and over and over!"

Projection Vade… can you say the word with me PROJECTION.

Is it too much to ask why? Especially since you're now allegedly not a creationist? What's all this, then?

We have been through this many times. I do not subscribe to YEC or evolution but this is based on what I consider dogma on both sides.

Kind of a lame, "I know you are, but what am I?" comeback, isn't that? Nevertheless, I'll tell you what my story is in case you're really that slow. In these discussions, I tend to present evidence for common descent with modification as the origin of species (genera, families, etc).

No Vade, you say to everyone “this is what to believe and if you don’t, well, you’re an idiot”. If the evidence were convincing to me that evolution is true, it would not bother me or change my life at all. Science is merely a hobby for me…

If the evidence convinced you that evolution (or the theory of common descent) was false, would your life change?

396 posted on 10/03/2002 7:01:58 PM PDT by Heartlander
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To: Heartlander
Dotted lines and assumptions, this is what I was pointing out to you. You’re allowed to infer and your data is the only data that is correct. Do you see ‘this’? You claim proof all the time…

You say this, Mr. Not-A-Creationist, but what's your agenda? And what's your story? My inference makes sense. You can't even say what your inference is, only what it isn't. This is Luddite behavior: cheering for the gaps, praying for ignorance.

We have been through this many times. I do not subscribe to YEC or evolution but this is based on what I consider dogma on both sides.

I am not asking you what you do not believe. I am asking you what you do believe. If you don't have a story, you don't have a horse in the race. And there no people who are militant believers in "Nobody knows anything." Ask yourself if your denials and tap-dancing are credible.

Science is merely a hobby for me…

Is this a joke? Your hobby is science?

Your posts betray militant opposition to the teaching of what we have learned so far in science. Again, why? Why do you profess one thing while doing another?

403 posted on 10/03/2002 7:15:32 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: Heartlander
If the evidence convinced you that evolution (or the theory of common descent) was false, would your life change?

Any new data will bring an advance of some sort, even if it seriously revises our picture of evolutionary change. I wish we had the next 200 year's worth of data already.

But I can tell from how you formulate the question that you have no clue--as a matter of deliberate policy, I'm sure--how much evidence is already in that evolution does occur and has occurred by one mechanism or another.

412 posted on 10/03/2002 7:27:45 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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