Posted on 10/01/2002 8:32:43 AM PDT by SteveH
Yes, BEAST train crashing HARDER
"losers jump upon the BEAST train"
"Come losers all onboard the BEAST train!"
Oh BEAST* train crashing LOUDER
Crash on the BEAST train
Come on crashing BEAST train
Yes, BEAST train crashing HARDER
* peace train...cat stevens
EVO train TOO!
You say this, Mr. Not-A-Creationist, but what's your agenda? And what's your story? My inference makes sense. You can't even say what your inference is, only what it isn't. This is Luddite behavior: cheering for the gaps, praying for ignorance.
We have been through this many times. I do not subscribe to YEC or evolution but this is based on what I consider dogma on both sides.
I am not asking you what you do not believe. I am asking you what you do believe. If you don't have a story, you don't have a horse in the race. And there no people who are militant believers in "Nobody knows anything." Ask yourself if your denials and tap-dancing are credible.
Science is merely a hobby for me…
Is this a joke? Your hobby is science?
Your posts betray militant opposition to the teaching of what we have learned so far in science. Again, why? Why do you profess one thing while doing another?
Placeholder bump ;^)
When is a Luddite for the Lord not a creationist?
“Biblical authoritarian terms”? Hmmm. You keep interjecting this Creationist/Christianity thing.
Why am I doing what I'm doing? I was appalled some three years ago to see so many of my philosophical and political brethren attacking science. Conservatism can never speak to the country with such hayseed Luddites dragging about its ankles, so I initially set about to add my voice to those offsetting any likely harmful effect of the clamor of creationists on FR. It turned out to be fun and educational.
Yes… Yes I see it now! Conservatism will be destroyed if we don’t all believe in evolution. Tell the President Vade! Tell him now!
He is a Christian; he is trying to reform education. This is going to destroy our society! Evolution is the most important issue in our world!
There seems to be a cart before the horse attitude i.e. evolution has occurred, that's a fact ( it is never stated who proved this fact ), therefore we just need to twist the evidence until it fits our pre-conceptions. Of course, science is supposed to look at the evidence, and then derive the theory, but as Karl Popper admitted, the theory of evolution has never been a scientific theory due to its lack of testability, so normal scientific standards do not and have never applied to the theory of evolution. It has always been an emotional issue and not a scientific one - on all sides it must be stated in fairness. The main difference is that the worshippers of mechanistic reductionist Newtonian materialism try to pretend they are objective, when in reality most of them are not. The following extract from Phillip Johnson's Darwin on Trial puts it quite nicely:-
You are an agnostic. . I am a Christian. You straddle the fence with God - I straddle the fence with science. But regardless, we both know that science cannot have all the answers for our lives.
Any new data will bring an advance of some sort, even if it seriously revises our picture of evolutionary change. I wish we had the next 200 year's worth of data already.
But I can tell from how you formulate the question that you have no clue--as a matter of deliberate policy, I'm sure--how much evidence is already in that evolution does occur and has occurred by one mechanism or another.
You have not answered my question. Tap-dance? Projection!???
This should not be the holdup, but somehow it is for some people. Science isn't going to change for you. You need to rethink your attitude toward it. Until you do, you'll be an embarrassment to conservatism before the country and the world.
Oh, now I'm not answering you questions? This is getting rich. Formulate a complete-sentence question and I'll answer it. Then tell me what you think you're doing on this thread.
Spare me your foolishness!
Spare me your foolishness!
Ape-ancestry rejectionism? Tough! That's the way it happened.
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