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To: gdc61
You guys are the ones spinning here. Take what I say and twist. I'm rather used to that from other debates. Dems, religious indoctrinates, and now druggies - who'd a thunk it. People with agendas come from all walks of life - even the ones crawling cause they're too blitzed to walk upright.

I don't think I've been talking about beliefs here. I've been talking about real world stuff "REAL WORLD" you know, that place that exists outside of THC laced dreamstates.
I'm not blinded by my own convictions, I'm convinced by common sense and will not be disuaded from my position.
Drugs are harmful and your pet is no different.

You keep falling back to the same tired arguments "well it's not as bad as other things.." Right, running over a bunny rabbit isn't as bad as committing murder. I'm not going to recommend people be free to do so as a sport.

I stick to right and wrong and then deal with legal and illegal on a responsible basis. Morally, drugs are wrong.
Common sensically, drugs are wrong. No basis on which to overturn good law. On the other hand, murdering babies is bad. But, we don't overturn that by ignoring the law. We overturn it by challenging the lawmakers or the laws. I know, you can't wait for that and have to break the law.
The have tos also have to go to jail when caught. To bad, so sad. This is a land of law. Don't like it and can't live by the system, get the heck out.
701 posted on 10/07/2002 9:12:27 AM PDT by Havoc
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To: Havoc
I'm not blinded by my own convictions, I'm convinced by common sense and will not be disuaded from my position. Drugs are harmful and your pet is no different.

I am equally convinced by common sense that the unrestrained growth and power of the federal government is harmful, and that the New Deal Commerce Clause is largely to blame. Every expansion of government power that is based on it is harmful, and your pet is no different. I will not however, accuse you of harboring criminal intent for holding a dissenting opinion.

702 posted on 10/07/2002 9:27:00 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: Havoc
Dear Mr. Safe Government Job:

ROTFLMAO!! You sound like the dialogue balloons for Joe Friday.

You are an excellent representation, be it fictive, ironic, or otherwise of the parasitic drone class that has come to dominate American public life.

Your mock-tough lawyerly cant fools nobody, shyster. Your mock-clever, mock-worldly rationales for a police state probably impress your buds at the doughnut shop, but leave a sentient person cold.

Drum up all the hysteria you can muster; I doubt that you will ever collect the parasite's pension that you think you're entitled to.

Heads on pikes! Crooked cops, lawyers, and other state-dpendent scum first.

After all, they are the leading profiteers of the War on Drugs. Hang 'em high!

Hopefully, this includes you.
703 posted on 10/07/2002 9:50:24 AM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: Havoc
havoc! reread my posts! i state facts, i don't tell emotional stories, true or untrue, the fact is i equate pot to cigarettes and alcohal in REAL health terms, you equate murder to running over bunnies. common sense tells me one is right and one is wrong. for instance "crawling" "too blitzed to walk upright" if you indeed did know what you were talking about you wouldn't make these rediculous statements. thats called spin. oh and no agenda here, i just joined FReepers because i share the same political views and enjoy good debate. "REAL WORLD" that was on MTV ..i hate MTV. auto insurance, homeowners insurance, business liability insurance, life insurance, health and disability insurance, selfemployment tax, social security tax, school tax, state/local tax, quarterly tax statements/payments and i probably missed a few. i know plenty about the real REAL WORLD do you ? i know that smoking pot almost daily didn't stop me from living the american dream and there are literally millions of people just like me that consume alcohal, smoke pot and/or cigerettes and lead completely normal lives. you drawing a conclusion of what is "harmful" is fine, for you, not me, I stick to right and wrong as well, and then deal with legal and illegal on a responsible basis. Morally, drugs are NOT wrong and man in civilization has used various types of drugs for various reasons , recreational use included, for a millenia. your condesending attitude and this unwinable WOD needs to end. the purpose of law is to protect peoples freedoms not impose moral/religious beliefs upon someone with different views. at least you share my views on abortion , there is some hope for you son!
707 posted on 10/07/2002 4:46:49 PM PDT by gdc61
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