Bud, have you ever known a SEAL candidate that made it past 1st phase that didn't know the difference between 9 weeks and 16?
Second Phase - Combat SCUBA DIVING = 7 weeks - he didn't make it this far at any rate.
To "wash out" in 4 months, this guy apparently had problems getting past the scuba qualification. It could have been a number of things, from lack of swimming ability to problems with his ears at depth. It does NOT mean that his problems were related to smoking pot. Your agenda won't "wash" here....
Bud, have you ever known a SEAL candidate that made it past 1st phase that didn't know the difference between 9 weeks and 16?Well "Bud" - I've never hung with wash-outs at anything, but, I have known a few SEAL/UDT guys who would eat this boy for breakfast and still have "more strength and credibility than you could ever imagine." Comparing a SEAL wash-out at 16 weeks to a Naval Sea/Air/Land Special Warfare designate is like comparing a Doctor to a high school drop-out. This guy didn't make it past the first Phase of training in all likelyhood, because the reality is that bootcamp can be extended for any number of reasons (and usually is), including waiting for a company to form (SEAL/UDT's are in "Special Companies" that usually take time to fill up), medical "holds" are common if the docs suspect anything is amiss (I spent an extra week in Navy boot camp waiting for a ruling on the shape of my ankle) and BUD/S candidates don't always pass the PST on the first try.
SEALs also have to qualify and pass a diving test before they can even start their training and that exam sometimes hangs them up for a week as well - but, they are still recruits, drawing a Navy paycheck the whole time and it all counts as time served in the billet.
If he made it into "Hell Week" with it's five and a half days of endless running, swiming, calisthenics and only four hours of sleep in the week, he very likely couldn't tell ten hours from 10 minutes at the end of it (without smoking pot), so yes, I've known SEALs who told me that they lost all sense of time durring phase one training.
To "wash out" in 4 months, this guy apparently had problems getting past the scuba qualification. It could have been a number of things, from lack of swimming ability to problems with his ears at depth. It does NOT mean that his problems were related to smoking pot. Your agenda won't "wash" here....There were no "problems with his ears at depth" or "lack of swimming ability" because as I just mentioned, all SEAL candidates must pass a diving physical examination, completed per Chapter 15, Section IV, Article 15-66 of the Manual of the Medical Department BEFORE reporting to BUD/S training.
I'm really sorry that I'm making you look like you don't know what you are talking about, that's not my "agenda" and I didn't say that he washed-out due to pot smoking. I called him a druggie only because his "best friend" was a druggie and he was evidently so stoned at the time of the raid that he couldn't tell a handgun from a "blue cup" or "a blue glass of water". My agenda was merely to correct some mistaken speculation about SEAL/UDT training from a couple of posters who were passing along moose droppings instead of facts.
One of the articles states that the shooter was a "veteran" police officer. It's very unlikely that he shot an unarmed man for kicks in my experience and mho and it's very likely that he has more "credibility" than the dope-smokers. It's a shame that the guy is dead, but, we can agree to disagree about who to believe. I won't agree that the dead man's best friend and apparently the only civilian eyewittness - is something special because he washed out of the SEAL training in 13 or 16 weeks. BTW, the ones that wash out after "Hell Week" are usually either psycho or too selfish to work with a team, so the longer he hung in there, the more likely it is that he's a nut job. Add drugs to the mix and he's not my idea of the most "credible" reliable wittness, but to each his own.
Whatever happened there, it doesn't justify acting like a lynch mob.