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Are you suggesting, contrary to this article, that dishonesty has _never_ been a feature of our involvement in wars? Are you serious?

If it has in the past, why not be skeptical now? Shouldn't we learn from history? Oh, that's right: it _never_ repeats!

Dishonesty is a trait found among people everywhere. The antiwar movement is no more honest than the government, and I've found that most of the time, pacifists are far more dishonest- and get far more people killed - than any hawk.

Maybe if it would distance itself from supporting evil, distance itself from critters like communists and Islamicists and critters like Hussein rather than acting as shields and apologists for them, then the peace crowd wouldn't come off so many parasitic, hateful liars.

Are you suggesting, contrary to this article, that dishonesty has _never_ been a feature of our involvement in wars? Are you serious?

If it has in the past, why not be skeptical now? Shouldn't we learn from history? Oh, that's right: it _never_ repeats!

No..not at all. What I asked was "what lies were told to get us into the Gulf War."

The whole implied point of this article as I see it is to spread the ill conceived notion that ALL presidents lie. We can therefore assume that "W" has lied since he is a president and presidents lie.

I reject that notion and think that each situation and each president must stand on it's/his own merits. I don't not consider Bush Sr. a lier and I do not consider Bush Jr. a lier.

Now, if you want to talk about Roosevelt, Johnson, Clinton, Kennedy, et al, well, that's a whole different story.