Andrew Sullivan- Left Over: Hitchens, 9/11 and Us

The Sunday Times via andrewsullivan.com ^ | 09/30/2002 | Andrew Sullivan

[Pokey78]

Pinging the Sullivan list.

[DB]

Thanks for the ping. I believe this was posted last week.

[js1138]

He saw exactly what Orwell had seen in the leftist intelligentsia of his own time: not simply a passivity in the face of evil, but almost an admiration for it.

What's with the "almost"????

[KC_Conspirator]

He found that a deep and lingering hatred of America over-powered some leftists' objection to mass murder. He found excuses for totalitarian hatred. He saw exactly what Orwell had seen in the leftist intelligentsia of his own time: not simply a passivity in the face of evil, but almost an admiration for it. And he was disgusted.

Excellent article.

[KC_Conspirator]

He found that a deep and lingering hatred of America over-powered some leftists' objection to mass murder. He found excuses for totalitarian hatred. He saw exactly what Orwell had seen in the leftist intelligentsia of his own time: not simply a passivity in the face of evil, but almost an admiration for it. And he was disgusted.

Excellent article.

[js1138]

And one day, the Left will come to realize his point.

No they won't. The left still mainatains the innocence of Hiss and the Rosenbergs, still hate America first, still think Stalin could have been redeemed, still hate the Jews, even though many of them are Jews.

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[Congressman Billybob]

A fine article about a respected friend (always) who was also a political adversary (sometimes) but was always a mind and a voice to be reckoned with. As more and more of the "honest" left desert the left, the remaining dregs are less and less humane or human. The analogy to George Orwell is perfect.

And the idea of writing about someone who is long dead, but who saw the truth and expressed it perfectly, is a good one. The likes of Orwell (Blair) will not pass our way again soon. (That's the same reason I am now writing about Tom Paine.)

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[Undertow]

Sullivan thinks Dasshole is a "decent" man?

[baseballmom]

Thanks for the ping Pokey. Sullivan nails it. Nothing will change the hatred of the left for America. They sit in their ivory towers, reguritating the same crap for years and years. Nothing changes. They are hypocrites - pure and simple. Remember what Nikita Kruschev said: The Soviets would have to do nothing. We will destroy ourselves from within.

[Free State Four]

Could someone please have David Horowitz ring up Christopher? In this vulnerable state, I think David could switch Hitch completely. He'd make a great addition to our side. fsf

[MHGinTN]

Ahh, the clarity!... So they engaged in a campaign of anti-anti-terrorism, the position of the coward and the sophist, encapsulated by Al Gore's bitter rant of last week. {Coward, sophist, and calculating DEMAGOGUE) While not opposing war itself, they opposed every single decision that could make war possible, demanding conditions and timetables that would effectively gut any assault on, say, Iraq. A few even came perilously close to siding with terror (Bonior, McDermitt, and the dimocrats bolstering their slime from Baghdad ... note Steponallofus' "guest" Sunday), minimizing its threat, and all but regarding it as the lesser evil compared with Republican dominance on the domestic political scene. YES, Andrew, there is the key! The democrats are more about opposing any Republican management of this nation, and far to the rear of their train of thought is the safety of the American people.

Some believe the Al Goreghoul speech caught the democrats off guard. Far from it; the gore speech from Socialist Bizerkly was the launch signal for a campaign designed by the democrats to divide this nation during an election cycle! It is claaic democrat political strategy and I'm amazed that conservatives haven't figured it out! [HINT: travel plans to Baghdad were made before Goron Stump made his speech. Daschle's rant was anything but spontaneous, and the democrat demagoguery that has followed is also anything but spontaneous. These lying S.O.B.'s have formulated a strategy to undermine the war so that Bush fails, Americans get killed, and the democrats can seize power completely ... and when they get it all this time, they will never relinquish it again because they will tax us so severly and hand the money out so freely, far more than 50% of Americans will be dependant on the fed for their life, one way or the other.

The only flaw in their strategy is the death and destruction a planned weakness of purpose against terrorism will reap; the democrats may come to full power over a nation in chaos, with death and destruction the norm and mayhem the only clear state of the union! I HATE THE DEMOCRAT HEIRARCHY!

[1rudeboy]

bttt

[MHGinTN]

Actually, in this current state of affairs, Hitch IS on our side, or more precisely, we share the same goal. It would be unhealthy to 'switch' hitchens to the conservative side; an articulate and thoughtful opposition is always the bolsterer of reason and there are none who can hold a candle to the liberal light of Christopher Hitchens (recall, please, the true meaning of liberal, not the sleazy, anti-American garbage of the current democrat leftists).

[RobbyS]

And one day, the Left will come to realize his point.

Don't count on it. Once the truth of what he says becomes irrefutable Hitchens will simply be forgotten. Do you you think they will give him a chance to say, I told you so?

[Capitalist Eric]

To paraphrase Orwell,

"Pacifism is objectively pro-terrorist."

That the democrats don't see how effectively they have boxed themselves in, with their anti-American philosophies, doesn't surprise me in the least. To be a true-blue democRAT, after all, you have to be immune to reality and facts, logic and common sense. In other words, by definition, you have to be mentally deranged. Those who were impervious to reality before, aren't going to change any time soon...

So I'll simply sit back, and continue to watch Dasche-Hole, Gore, and Gebhart swing in the wind...

Be well,

[KoestlersRedFiat]

This reminds me of something Orwell wrote about Jonathan Swift, that he was "driven into a sort of perverse toryism by the excesses of the left of his day" (or words to that effect.)

This can be said of Hitchens. Will P.J. O'Rourke now remove him from his "Enemies List?"

[Howlin]

FYI.

[Cold Heat]

Thanks Howlin, I knew this article was too important for someone from FR not to post it.

A excellent read and food for thought regarding the self destruction of the left.

I expect them to be openly siding with the communist party as a opus.