1 posted on
09/30/2002 5:11:31 AM PDT by
SLB
To: Squantos; Lion Den Dan; pocat; harpseal; Travis McGee; Jeff Head
A little something to read with coffee this morning.
2 posted on
09/30/2002 5:19:13 AM PDT by
SLB
To: SLB
>But if an act of defense is deemed out of proportion to the threat, the defender can be charged with a felony.
The British disease is infecting our legal theory.
To: SLB
"Freeze!" he yelled.
First (biggest, and could have been his last) mistake. Once I have identified you as intending to do harm to me, family, etc. the only warning I will provide is the muzzle flash from one or both of my .44's, 12 GA, or whatever is closest to me. I am no longer a a combatant goverend by the Geneva Convention nor a member of law enforcement. I see no up side in taking prisoners or of wounding or subduing an assailant. I want you dead, the deader the better. If I could find bullets I could put in you that would kill the she-wolf that birthed you I'd use them.
There, that's more warning than you deserve.
6 posted on
09/30/2002 5:27:02 AM PDT by
Feckless
To: SLB
>Gaudet said he thought about firing again at the uninjured gunman as he pushed his wounded partner outside.
>"It went through my mind, why not just pull the trigger? But I didnt feel any threat. He was running," Gaudet said.
I guess people who carry need training in how to keep these personal reflections to themselves and to say certain stock legal phrases.
To: SLB
A good article and fair from the standpoint of RKBA.
You do have to think before you ever decide to carry what will be the most likely response you will have when you find yourself in a position to have to defend yourself. You will be way more nervous than you think (I know this from experience -- when I was awakened in the middle of the night with someone in the house I was shaking like a little girl, and decided after that that a pistol might not be as good a choice as a shotgun for home defense.)
I carry a Baretta 9mm all the time now, and will do everything I can to avoid all situations where I might get into an altercation ... drive away from the road ragers, walk away from any altercations on the street, etc. But if the time comes that my life is in immediate peril, I hope I have prepared myself to be situationally aware enough to make the right decision, and that I have steeled my convictions enough not to spend the rest of my life second guessing myself.
It sucks that the world is violent to the point that you may have to kill someone else to stay alive, but that is reality ... face it and live, ignore it and die a victim ...
8 posted on
09/30/2002 5:34:28 AM PDT by
spodefly
To: SLB
Four weeks later, Gaudet said he still suffers from anxiety, bronchitis and other health problems he never had before. I know a fellow who had to kill in self-defense. He was arrested and had no problems sleeping that night in jail. He was ultimately aquitted and has never had any physical manestations of guilt. He says he wishes it didn't happen, but he can't say he would do anything differently.
It depends on the person. Some people walk out of simunition training and throw up, and some want a snack.
To: SLB
"Taylor grabbed a gun from behind the register and shot the robber in the face. The robber was charged. Taylor wasnt."Jeez, what was he using, a BB gun? An air pistol? Believe me, if I shot someone in the face with my pistol, he wouldn't be charged with anything; he would have to be squeegeed off the floor.
To: SLB
Gaudet said police assured him he had done nothing wrong, but he still worries other people will think of him as a killer. Better than being thought of as a corpse.
.357 magnum bump
14 posted on
09/30/2002 5:48:24 AM PDT by
dpa5923
To: SLB; David Hunter
Gaudet didnt see the second gunman, who fired from a crouch, sending a bullet streaking inches away from Gaudets torso. Gaudet shot back, missing the shooter but killing the first gunman, Charles Patillo, 17. The second gunman ran but was later captured and charged with manslaughter.
This is much superior to British law where the innocent man defending his life and property would have been charged.
To: SLB
He drew his 9 mm handgun and fired four times at a passenger-side tire. Over a bottle of cognac? That seems a bit over the top.
Although the perps aren't likely to target that particular establishment again. Or perhaps they might...for revenge.
To: Vic3O3
Ping
21 posted on
09/30/2002 5:59:13 AM PDT by
dd5339
To: SLB
There was a great article written a number of years ago (A Nation of Cowards written by Jeffrey R. Snyder,published in "The Public Interest," Number 113, Fall 1993) which I recommend to our readers. In part, it said that "..the law enforcement establishment continually advise us that, when confronted with the threat of lethal violence, we should not resist, but simply give the attacker what he wants." It continued with: "How can a person who values himself so highly, so calmly accept the indignity of a criminal assault?" And, perhaps, my favorite quote from that article: "A sermon given in Philadelphia in 1747 unequivocally equated the failure to defend oneself with suicide: 'He that suffers his life to be taken from him by one that hath no authority for that purpose, when he might preserve it by defense, incurs the Guilt of self murder since God hath enjoined him to seek the continuance of his life, and Nature itself teached every creature to defend itself.'" Our "polite society" and its politically-correct notions do not work. If we, as individuals, do not take responsibility for combatting crime or terrorism, who will? Take back the night! Take back your right to live as free Americans.
To: SLB; dd5339
In Florida and many other eastern states, people are required to retreat from a conflict instead of defending themselves.Huh?? I thought CCW was legal in Florida. When did they do away with the right of self defense?
31 posted on
09/30/2002 7:24:19 AM PDT by
Vic3O3
To: SLB
shootings at Spot Liquor, Sims, the Super Stop and Sigma Imports The moral? Don't work at any shop in the ghetto where the name of the business starts with 'S'.
Seriously, though, a pat on the back is in order for these good clean shoots. This outcome is so much better than catching these little hoodlums and locking them up in prison for a few years, then letting them out again. Good riddance.
-ccm
34 posted on
09/30/2002 10:07:40 AM PDT by
ccmay
To: SLB
Better to be tried by twelve, than carried by six BUMP!
To: SLB
Thanks for posting!
53 posted on
10/01/2002 8:41:25 AM PDT by
neutrino
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