Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: chimpanzee politics
Okay. First, evil is inconsistent with good, agreed?

No. Both terms and the sentence itself are utterly meaningless. What are "good" and "evil" except mere strings of letters in an absolutely meaningless universe?

Furthermore, even secularists can comfortably define evil as suffering, human or otherwise.

They can define anything they want since everything is meaningless, etc., ad nauseum. I have yet to meet a rigorous atheist.

Materialism fails because it contradicts itself. There can be no truth in a theoretical materialist universe because Everything would be "matter in motion." The utterance "materialism is true" and the utterance "materialism is false" would both be the product of blind material forces. How could one utterance be superior to another? How could one be "true" and one "false?" Yet in this actual universe we know some truths with absolute certainty, such as "truth exists" or "1 + 1 = 2" and "the whole is greater than its parts." Thus, we cannot logically be living in a strictly material universe.

157 posted on 09/30/2002 12:21:47 PM PDT by Aquinasfan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 97 | View Replies ]


To: Aquinasfan; chimpanzee politics
Furthermore, even secularists can comfortably define evil as suffering, human or otherwise.

Well, atheists can make up whatever notion of good and evil they personally like. But a world of no suffering would be like the Brave New World - a meaningless world. And of course, the quickest way to end inevitable suffering in this world is through death - suicide or a quiet putting to sleep of the afflicted (which would be everyone, since we all suffer). That's the morality we (as dog Gods) provide for dogs. They have fun, sex and food and a great place to sleep at night - and their lives are relatively meaningless. When they suffer, we knock them off. Coming up, doggie morality for humans.

160 posted on 09/30/2002 12:34:39 PM PDT by yendu bwam
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 157 | View Replies ]

To: Aquinasfan; chimpanzee politics
Furthermore, even secularists can comfortably define evil as suffering, human or otherwise.

Well, atheists can make up whatever notion of good and evil they personally like. But a world of no suffering would be like the Brave New World - a meaningless world. And of course, the quickest way to end inevitable suffering in this world is through death - suicide or a quiet putting to sleep of the afflicted (which would be everyone, since we all suffer). That's the morality we (as dog Gods) provide for dogs. They have fun, sex and food and a great place to sleep at night - and their lives are relatively meaningless. When they suffer, we knock them off. Coming up, doggie morality for humans.

161 posted on 09/30/2002 12:35:58 PM PDT by yendu bwam
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 157 | View Replies ]

To: Aquinasfan; chimpanzee politics
Furthermore, even secularists can comfortably define evil as suffering, human or otherwise.

Well, atheists can make up whatever notion of good and evil they personally like. But a world of no suffering would be like the Brave New World - a meaningless world. And of course, the quickest way to end inevitable suffering in this world is through death - suicide or a quiet putting to sleep of the afflicted (which would be everyone, since we all suffer). That's the morality we (as dog Gods) provide for dogs. They have fun, sex and food and a great place to sleep at night - and their lives are relatively meaningless. When they suffer, we knock them off. Coming up, doggie morality for humans.

162 posted on 09/30/2002 12:38:30 PM PDT by yendu bwam
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 157 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson