FReepers-please, PLEASE help..I'm scared to death, can't get rid of my rentors. {Vanity}

September 28, 2002 | Sweet_Sunflower29

[alisasny]

I have used lawguru.com from time to time. I also rent an apt and have had great success thus far. Check it out, their is an entire q and a on landlord tenant issues... also start combing through your lease finding out where they are in violation...calling the cops seems to be against the lease they signed...GOOD LUCK and prayers...

[r9etb]

I'm no lawyer, but these people are on your property. From what you've said, there are grounds to evict.

[snippy_about_it]

I believe I would call the rental agency you used and tell them to throw them out or you'll file a law suit against them for not checking out the false accusations made on the lease.

[Drango]

Just post a giant picture of Janet Reno on their font door. They'll leave.

[Ecliptic]

Very simple: get a lawyer..I know, you don't want to spend the money. (If you don't want to spend the money, don't coplain about the renters.)...anyway, let the attorney go after them tooth and nail and you have no more contact with them. In some locales, after the cops are called a certain number of times to rowdy people, they are automaticly arrested.

Start using a non-portable phone so they cannot monitor the calls.

[WhirlwindAttack]

Get another eviction notice. Tell local LEO they deal drugs.
Stay resolved to get rid of them. Sue them for false statements on their application.
Don't rent to people you can't screen personally.

If all else fails burn them out and collect the insurance, sounds like the place is a trashed out roach hotel. Sorry for your troubles. We sold ALL our rental properties because of things like this.

Living out in the sticks now bump.

[goodieD]

One reason I don't use a cordless...get a cheap corded phone so they can't tell when you're calling the cops.. get the law involved, and if they won't do anything, sue the bastards.

[John Jorsett]

You have to evict them. Go to a law firm that specializes in evictions and let them handle it. And if they're monitoring your phone, get one with a cord to use for the time being. Or if you feel like spreading a little disinformation, make some calls with a confederate on the other end in which you talk about them sending a squad of knee-breakers out if there's any trouble over the eviction.

[Humidston]

Two words: VIDEO CAMERA!!!

Get a lawyer NOW. Video every brawl they have, every piece of crap strewn around the yard. Take photos, gather your evidence before the fur starts flying out of control.

(BTW, as an ex-realtor, I think that if the agency didn't run a credit check, you may have a case against them UNLESS you signed off on the lack of same when you signed the lease.)

Also, never ever accept partial rent payments without counsel of attny. In TX it automatically bumps your right to demand full payment back by 30 days. Of course, check with your own state. (That's just another reason you really really need a lawyer!)

Good luck!

[knak]

Put it up for sale?

[Aracelis]

Bump for some expert freeper help.

[Humidston]

BTW, I have an Asian friend who owns tons of rental property. She is a shrewd and brilliant businesswoman.

She told me she NEVER lets her tenants know she is the owner.... She tells them she's "just the property manager who has to follow the boss's orders" so that if there's trouble, they don't come after her!

[witnesstothefall]

While I sympathize, your own decisions were what let the agency and the rentors get you over this barrel. Now it's up to you to stick it back to them. Defend your property rights, in court if necessary.

[Freedom2specul8]

Dittos Dittos Dittos your #10.

[lsee]

This may be a case of "your money or your life"...

if you are reluctant to consult with an attorney or involve the law because it might be expensive, ask yourself how expensive it will be when one of the "friends" of these lovely people decides to break into your house and steal from you. Or decides they don't like being told to "shut up" and "accidentally" fires a gun. Just knowing you HAVE a gun or two in the house could easily inspire some gangster pal to break in just to steal the guns.

Expensive to evict? Oh, yes...but what about your peace of mind and preserving your life?

There are legal avenues for you, although the low-cost ones may have a waiting list. What you're doing isn't working, obviously, so expense or not, getting rid of these pests must become a top priority, even if it means other bills don't get paid in the meantime. Don't be intimidated by their leverage. The laws that protect them only go so far and you are the winner eventually. Keep your head. Put the guns down and reach for the telephone. Then be prepared to reach for your wallet. Could be an expensive learning experience.

[Abcdefg]

"Tell local LEO they deal drugs.

I thought it was illegal to file a false report. Dont' get yourself in trouble over this.

[Orbiter]

They're probably pretty stupid, so play to that with the following:

1. Make really nice for a month or two.
2. Have someone you know whose a good "actor" arrive one day
when you and the tenants are both home. Have your friend, with briefcase in hand, walk to your door, making sure he's "noticed". You two talk about the weather or whatever for 10 or 15 minutes.
3. Have your friend exit your house and walk over to the neighbors and ask to speak to one of the parents. Introduce yourself as a "man from the bank that owns the mortgage on the house. Seems he's gotten behind on the payments, and the bank's gotta do what needs gettin' done. Now, we're all sympatheic -- care 'bout a man's family, and all -- him paying for his widowed aunt's cancer treatment. Nice fella, him. Just hate havin' this be part of my job, but the bank's gonna have to sell the house to get what it's owned. Maybe y'all would like to buy it -- only way I can see to keep you nice folks living under this roof. Other than that, the bank can't keep up with a contract y'all signed with him. And I hate to think how the foreclosure judge and my bank's president are related and what he might do to get y'all moving along, least from what happened last time them two hooked up on a similar case -- like this one. Poor fella. Well, y'all take care. Man, that foreclosure judge and the police doin' that to someone..."

[lelio]

My engineer brother-in-law came over and told us that our phone was at a frequency to high for a normal 'bought at RadioShack' scanner to pick up, so it may be a police scanner.
What he probably means is that you have a 2.4GHz phones, which came on the scene a couple of years ago. The old ones were 900MHz which any scanner could easily pick up. Sales of scanners that pick up 2.4GHz are banned in the US (in each scanner there's a chip that allows you to go around that frequency, but not listen to it), but you can pick them up in Canada or over the internet.
But that's bucks ($800+) and if they can't pay their rent I doubt if they are buying scanners. Well unless they have a need for it.
We have the exact opposite problem here: person rented out his house to some clowns that blast music at all hours, constantly are drunk, etc. So far it looks like he hasn't done anything to correct the problem. But based on your experience I doubt if he can do anything.
How about setting up a video camera to record the goings on? Dollars to doughnuts you'll catch them doing something illegal that you can show the cops.

[eastforker]

Is there a clause in the lease what happens if you sell the property?If not,sell it to a relative for a buck,let them take possesion,the tennants will have to leave,then let the relative sell it back to you for a buck,that is of course unless it is financed,than again your rentors may not be that bright and merely typing up some papers showing change of hands may be all that is needed.