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To: Torie
Interesting. I guess my question is how the fetus can move without brain waves.

A chicken with its head cut off my look rather lively, but that doesn't make it any less dead.

I find even early-term abortios disturbing, but given the status quo (abortion on demand any time for any reason) I think it's best to work on convincing people at a 39-week fetus deserves protection. Don't agree that a 38-week fetus doesn't, but agree to put off discussion of the 38-week fetus until there's concensus on the 39-week one. Once concensus has been reached on the 39-week one, then work on the 38-week one, again putting off discussion of the 37-week one.

If Republicans were smart, they could probably use a strategy like the above to significantly reduce society's acceptance of abortion over the next 25 years or so, and would actually gain votes at the polls for doing so. Their current wishy-washy stance costs them votes while netting nearly nothing in the way of useful results.

39 posted on 09/29/2002 11:34:59 AM PDT by supercat
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To: supercat
Yes, it is amazing that so few politicians have gone down the road that I suggest, and explained it. I think in part because most don't care about the issue, and just want to avoid political damage, or go a more unreasoned route and pander. Most politicians are somewhat adverse to taking risk, and unimaginative IMO. But if someone went that route, and it defused the issue in a pro choice zone, without causing the more hard core pro life folks to bolt, it might catch on.
41 posted on 09/29/2002 11:42:42 AM PDT by Torie
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To: supercat
I find even early-term abortios disturbing, but given the status quo (abortion on demand any time for any reason) I think it's best to work on convincing people at a 39-week fetus deserves protection. Don't agree that a 38-week fetus doesn't, but agree to put off discussion of the 38-week fetus until there's concensus on the 39-week one. Once concensus has been reached on the 39-week one, then work on the 38-week one, again putting off discussion of the 37-week one.

If Republicans were smart, they could probably use a strategy like the above to significantly reduce society's acceptance of abortion over the next 25 years or so, and would actually gain votes at the polls for doing so. Their current wishy-washy stance costs them votes while netting nearly nothing in the way of useful results.

Agreed. My daughter was born by C-Section at 35 weeks, and came home four days later. Almost everyone can see that late-term or "partial birth" abortions are infanticide.

It's only because of the late-term selfishness of a few expectant mothers that these babies aren't delivered and placed for adoption.

The scenario you describe would be an appropriate strategy for GOP incrementalism, where steady, step-by-step progress is made against the radical pro-abortion crowd.




51 posted on 09/29/2002 12:18:53 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: supercat
supercat, that is exactly the strategy that was used to go after late-term and partial brith abortions... The fact that NARAL and NOW still defended these barbarisms exposed them for the nihilists and anit-humanitarians they were, but the battle was not fully joined. Why? Because Roe v. Wade still provides cover for short-circuiting the debate. The proaborts hide behind this instead of facing the issues of right of unborn humans.

There will not be an honest political discussion on this untile Roe v Wade is repealed and the issue is discussed on its merits only.

59 posted on 09/29/2002 6:30:14 PM PDT by WOSG
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