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To: Kobyashi1942
I'm not the one who needs a history lesson. You seem to think we're all racists or something. You must be suffering from some sort of overly self-defensive syndrome that prompts you to pre-emptively attack other people. You're the one who admires our WWII enemies so much you dedicate your screenname to one of them. Remember which side your bread is buttered on. You keep bringing up Japanese-Americans as if nobody knows about them, but yes, we all know about how they were treated during WWII, (especially after a Japanese-American traitor was instrumental in aiding the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor), but I wouldn't rank it up there with the blacks, who were enslaved or the Native Americans. Puhleeze.

But you are not singing the praises of them, or the 442nd, but of the "self-sacrifice and bravery" of the Imperial Japanese. Look at how they treated their concentration camp victims and tell us all again how culturally superior the Japanese were to the Americans. Compare photos of Japanese-Americans in their camps with Allied POWs in Japanese camps and see for yourself who valued human life or basic human rights more. There weren't any Japanese-American living skeletons in the U.S. You didn't see them beaten to death and starved to death or walking around with not even enough flesh on their bones to keep their bodies and souls together.

The internment camps is a shameful chapter in U.S. history, but that is nothing, nothing compared to the complete lack of humanity on the part of the Imperial Japanese. The Japanese to this day don't teach their students about how they treated their prisoners. It isn't taught in their schools. We acknowledge our shameful acts much more than they do theirs.

124 posted on 09/30/2002 4:14:33 PM PDT by wimpycat
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To: wimpycat
Very, very well said, wimpycat.

POWs held by the Japanese during WWII were likely to die in captivity by an astounding ratio compared to others. I guess when you can be decapitated for sneezing, it's bound to pad the numbers a little bit.

And it wasn't just treatment of POWs.

I have to wonder where "bravery and self-sacrifice" came into play when firecrackers were inserted into the bodily cavities of Filipino women who refused to give away the whereabouts of Americans. I have to wonder how "brave and self-sacrificing" one has to be to tie those women to poles and light the fuses while their children watch, screaming.

We are not blameless, but there simply is no equivalence here. The Japanese have much to be proud of, but the environment cultivated by their military in the 1940s is not one of those things.
126 posted on 09/30/2002 5:22:21 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: wimpycat
The internment camps is a shameful chapter in U.S. history, but that is nothing, nothing compared to the complete lack of humanity on the part of the Imperial Japanese. The Japanese to this day don't teach their students about how they treated their prisoners. It isn't taught in their schools. We acknowledge our shameful acts much more than they do theirs.

I freely admit that the IJA committed many, many evil and distasteful atrocities. You will get no argument from me. Unlike you though, I am able to separate the criminal elements of the Japanese armed forces from the rest of the men who fought with honor and distinction.

I'm sure you don't judge all the the American armed forces by the criminal fire bombing of DRESDEN or Tokyo, right? I'm sure you don't judge all the the allied forces by the fact that over 1,000,000 German soldaten were allowed to die in POW camps in the year AFTER the war was over. Nor will me mention the fact that Eisenhower knowingly sent some 2,000,000 patriotic Russians and Ukrainians to the death when he handed them over to the evil Soviet armed forces at the end of the war (these Russian and Ukrainian men's only crime was to have surrendured to the Germans during the war). Eisenhower was told by his intelligence that these poor slavs would be killed, but that didn't stop him.

Don't lecture me on war crimes pal, our fecal matter stinks just like the rest. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

127 posted on 09/30/2002 11:10:51 PM PDT by Kobyashi1942
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To: wimpycat
I wonder if our history buff knows who these men were.


128 posted on 10/01/2002 12:20:53 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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