Posted on 09/28/2002 7:43:05 PM PDT by Askel5
Always happy to be a springboard for your diatribes and personal insults, Askel. Contrary to what you may think, I rather like it when you go on and on.
You were unaware somehow that our forces were segregated ... even down to restricting blacks to Messman only in the Navy, pilots to Tuskegee in the air force and considering the drafting white female nurses they were so reluctant to recruit blacks?
Sad but true. Look it up. Particularly given the fact it occurred well after the Civil War which our Federal Government OSTENSIBLY fought on the issue of slavery -- "all men being created equal" and all that rot -- it's rather odd, don't you think, they'd segregate the armed forces of "democracy" in a fashion to please the most racist Klansman?
I'm so glad you enjoy my posts even you can't understand them. I suspect there are plenty who do, however. I speak for -- and to -- them. It doesn't surprise in the least I can no longer be understood by many who post here. The place has changed quite a bit since I arrived.
It's now a spot where the bodies of aborted children are absolutely verboten (as they are for most liberals on US campuses, the internet, outside abortuaries and on American highways that the Convoy educates) but some Dead American may be used as an exclamation point on a flame.
Which flame evidenced your complete inability to understand the posts of another who sees past Appearances such that he can respect and admire the human dignity of others -- even his enemies, much less the unborn. So, it's possible I'm relieved we don't speak the same language.
One of the reasons I ended up such a Russo-phile upon my initial introduction to militant atheist communism in 6th grade was the counsel of my military father. Sitting in the back yard and listening to me lay into the Soviets with all due Askelian vigor, he reminded me that governments weren't the same as People and that there were probably plenty of young Russian girls, like me, who loved their Dads and whose Dads, as he was, simply were obligated to fight on behalf their nation as the government saw fit .,.. even it meant the Russian Askel's Dad and mine were committed to making the Russian Askel and I fatherless if at all possible.
So -- even as he reared me to be an extraordinarily pro-military sort with an intense love of country -- he also imparted to me the wisdom of restraint that stems from a respect for life and understanding that -- however vastly different folks may be -- they often share the essentials of humanity.
It's important, particularly on the eve of battle, to do what it takes to energize men into killing the enemy. our family has plenty of propaganda on the "Japs" from my great-grandfather Colonel Arthur's collection.
What I find absolutely horrifying today, though, is the way the populace at large strides about speaking in terms of Subhumans when they know damned good and well that our military is moving ever-closer toward the totally utopian fighting machine that are drones ... much less the "Clean Hands" combat that is raining down death somewhat indiscriminately from the skies ... and that our own government can speak of unborn Americans as "excess" individuals.
It would appear there's a certain inhumanity in being Super-Human as well as Sub-Human.
Even my lifelong hero Patton not admired the military genius, courage and valour of his opponents but also respected as human beings the Germans who killed so many of his men.
Patton was not one to lose sight of the Humanity of the individual combatants. And this, primarily, because he was not one to lose sight of the Just War (including that which we failed to prosecute against the Soviets when we could have routed Stalin) or rely on Machines rather than men to fight his battles.
LAMB: Let me read you what [his daughter] Ruth Ellen wrote:
"The war was all around him when he wrote Ma a letter, which shows a side of him that she always saw, but that few others outside his immediate family ever knew existed. He wrote to her that he had been inspecting a battlefield at night, and that the dead soldiers, as yet unclaimed by the burial teams, were lying there in the moonlight.He said it was hard to tell the Americans and British from the Germans, and they all looked alike: very young and very dead. And he began to think how often their mothers had changed their diapers and wiped their noses, and suddenly the whole concept seemed unbearable. <> And he decided that the only way to survive under such stress was to try to think of soldiers as numbers, not as individuals, and that the sooner the Allies won, the sooner the slaughter of the incidents -- of the innocents would cease. However, no matter what he said, he could never quite do that.
To him, his men were individuals, people and responsibilities, always."
Huh?
I never indicated, in any way, that I was "unaware somehow that our forces were segregated", and I don't need to "look it up". So now you've resorted to fabricating things just to have an excuse to write one of your infamous and painfully rambling posts. Perfect.
I should have remembered someone as skilled in the art of inflammatory posts and images as you knew exactly what you were doing.
You know, I could point you toward your mistake, but I'm not going to babysit you, Askel.
I became a Russo-phile -- avidly devouring Russian literature, music, theatre, arts and such -- as a result of my Dad's caveats.
As it turns out (even and especially after finally getting to visit the place last year), I think we have a lot in common and I remain hopeful the "saving graces of western materialism" will not so totally warp an already shellshocked nation who's suffered under 80 years of militant atheism that we will enjoy full alliance with the Russian people once China tees the ball for the final confrontation between East and West.
It's my hope and my belief, actually, that's what will happen once the Leninists are gone who keep playing both ends against the middle as they continue marching toward the achieving of all manner of longterm strategic objectives ... such as the collectives economic and security systems now in place in Europe, the use of "Environmentalism" as organising principle and the establishing of World State organizations which render the nation-state redundant and obliterate national sovereignty.
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Gee ... how is anyone to tell the way you and Justshe feign ignorance of why Kobyashi was using "white" in quotes? I should have remembered someone as skilled in the art of inflammatory posts and images as you knew exactly what you were doing. |
Askel.......this is the only paragraph from Kobyashi that includes the word whites(underlining is my formatting) .
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Hah! First you imprison them and their famlies, take away all their private possessions (talk about blatant racism run rampant in the supposedly "democratic" United States) and than they have to show your all-white units how to fight! I won't mention the cover-up the white US Army spent over the next 50 years trying to hide the truth about the brave men of the 442nd. Some groups are heidonistic and others aren't: deal with it. 92 posted on 9/29/02 9:13 AM Pacific by Kobyashi1942 |
PLEASE show me where Kobyashi used QUOTES. Additionally, I am sure you will want to retract this accusation: "I should have remembered someone as skilled in the art of inflammatory posts and images as you knew exactly what you were doing."
She won't be back tonight.
My advice: move on and find a Korean orphan to kick around.
Quotes or no quotes, I stand by what I posted.
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