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50,000 in London Protest Iraq Action
Yahoo ^ | Sat Sep 28 | AUDREY WOODS

Posted on 09/28/2002 12:42:18 PM PDT by adam stevens

50,000 in London Protest Iraq Action Sat Sep 28, 2:38 PM ET By AUDREY WOODS, Associated Press Writer

LONDON (AP) - More than 50,000 Britons from all regions, ages and social backgrounds, marched in central London Saturday, urging Prime Minister Tony Blair ( news - web sites) and President Bush ( news - web sites) not to invade Iraq.

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As they wound their way from Embankment on the River Thames to Hyde Park, many of the demonstrators stopped to shout through the gates of Blair's 10 Downing St. residence.

"Tony Blair, shame, shame, no more killing in my name," went one chant.

"We believe it would be wholly immoral and wrong and criminal for the United States and Britain to attack Iraq and inflict casualties upon innocent people," Tony Benn, a former Labor Party legislator and veteran left-winger, told the crowd. "We must see it is not allowed to happen."

Tam Dalyell, who holds the title father of the House of Commons, said the Iraq dilemma was the most dangerous standoff since the Cuban missile crisis.

"We are sleepwalking to disaster," he said.

Streams of people poured out of subway stations near the march's starting point and demonstrators at the back of the march were still setting off after those at the front had reached Hyde Park, more than a mile away.

Scotland Yard said it was still working on a crowd estimate but that there were more than 50,000 demonstrators.

Andrew Burgin, of the Stop the War Coalition, which helped organize the march, said there were 250,000 people and added that the crowd was still growing.

"Iraq is not our enemy, stop Bush," said a homemade banner carried by Irial Eno, 12, who attended the rally with her sister, mother and grandmother. She said it was not right to kill innocent Iraqis in order to topple their leader.

Irial's mother, Anthea Eno, said she would support an attack on Iraq if it had United Nations ( news - web sites) backing, but added that she did not expect that to happen.

The march came as Britain and the United States worked together on a draft resolution on Iraq which they plan to propose to the United Nations.

Blair has been Bush's staunchest ally on Iraq and last week released a dossier claiming Saddam Hussein ( news - web sites) has stockpiled chemical and biological weapons, and is trying to develop nuclear arms.

Legislators from the prime minister's own Labor Party are among the leaders of the Stop the War Coalition, which organized the march with the Muslim Association of Britain.

The march was also meant as a protest of Israel's policies in the West Bank and Gaza, and many protesters expressed sympathy for the Palestinian cause. "Stop Israeli war crimes," said one sign.

London Mayor Ken Livingstone said the wrong motivations were driving the confrontation with Iraq.

"It's not about defense of British people or British interests, it's so that corrupt American politicians can get their hands on Iraqi oil," he told reporters.

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To: MadIvan
Article on British gun control in the new issue of American Rifleman Magazine.
21 posted on 09/28/2002 1:20:57 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Rye
I'd say the takeover already happened.

Many have tried. All have failed.

22 posted on 09/28/2002 1:23:44 PM PDT by spitz
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To: MadIvan
Please keep Tony Benn there.

THis confluence of Islam and the Loony Red Left is starting to get scary; even from here.
23 posted on 09/28/2002 1:29:49 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: Cachelot
I love how so many of these Palis seem to be wearing US issue camouflage pants.
24 posted on 09/28/2002 1:30:44 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: MadIvan
Don't worry about it; it's certainly not your fault! I certainly don't think they are representative of all your people. We certainly have plenty of our own kookoos. I can understand that there are conscientious objectors.(sp?)Many of them are principled. It's the others one can't be sure of.

I almost wonder that since Britain, and until 9-11, the US; haven't really had an attack on our countries for a long time. We have had some healthy scares, but no major attacks. I really think people have gotten terribly spoiled. They basically have rights; they can do many things within reason. They really don't know how to behave!

In both countries, the 'greatest generation', and also the "Vietnam" generation, have grown old. A lot of people now don't remember what happened in London back then, or Pearl Harbor here, and other places (Europe). I hope they never have to face a 9-11 on 'their' soil!

Even in Britain, from what I have read; a plot to crash planes into important buildings was foiled, thankfully. Then, you all lost 67 people too. The victims on 9-11 came from all over the place. You'd think that would wake these people up! But it hasn't. You'd think they would listen to the plight of the Iraqi people and their neighbors, and come stand for 'their' liberation and sovereignty! I guess not!
25 posted on 09/28/2002 1:36:06 PM PDT by dsutah
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To: MadIvan
Numbers aside, I’ll assume these are muslims plus the usual suspects, aging hippy/green/CNDer’s (looking for a new ‘cause’), university students (warped by left-wing professors), self-styled ‘radicals’ and the ill-informed.

Oops, nearly forgot. A Conservative sprinkling of Special Branch taking names and photos. ;)

26 posted on 09/28/2002 1:44:31 PM PDT by spitz
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To: adam stevens
"We believe it would be wholly immoral and wrong and criminal for the United States and Britain to attack Iraq and inflict casualties upon innocent people," Tony Benn, a former Labor Party legislator and veteran left-winger, told the crowd. "We must see it is not allowed to happen."

Translation:

We prefer the Iraqi dictator to inflict millions of casualties against his own people and his neighboring countries.

Arabs are worthless trash anyway.

They don't deserve to live free.

27 posted on 09/28/2002 1:45:40 PM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
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To: swarthyguy
Please keep Tony Benn there.

I'd rather not. He is the son of aristocrats, lives in posh Holland Park, and yet denounces capitalism wherever he goes. Traitor, in other words.

Regards, Ivan

28 posted on 09/28/2002 1:58:29 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: spitz
Numbers aside, I’ll assume these are muslims plus the usual suspects, aging hippy/green/CNDer’s (looking for a new ‘cause’), university students (warped by left-wing professors), self-styled ‘radicals’ and the ill-informed.

The CND was heavily involved in this. As were Muslim groups.

Regards, Ivan

29 posted on 09/28/2002 1:59:55 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
If only you knew the history of Tony Ben! Even in radical left-wing circles the guy is a complete head case.
30 posted on 09/28/2002 2:02:19 PM PDT by spitz
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To: MadIvan
Well, between the Queen's curator, Blunt, and all the other upperclass twits who sold their soul to Koba, what's surprising about that.

At least Scargill was the son of a miner, i believe.
31 posted on 09/28/2002 2:05:46 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: MadIvan
Tony Benn

Ahead of Tony Benn's debut appearance at this month's Glastonbury festival, here is our web guide to the veteran leftwinger

Matthew Tempest, political correspondent
Thursday June 6, 2002


1. Perhaps the biggest surprise is that it has taken so long for former Labour MP Tony Benn to "play" Glastonbury - a festival so long associated with alternative lifestyles and radical thinking.

2. The former minister in Harold Wilson's government, who left the House of Commons at the general election last year "to spend more time on politics", will open the "Left Field" stage at the festival.

3. Mr Benn - originally named Anthony Wedgewood-Benn - was born a fully-fledged aristocrat, the son of Viscount Stansgate. He entered parliament in 1950 at the age of 25, following an Oxford education. An RAF pilot during the war, in which he lost a brother, he joined the Labour party at the age of 18 and first became MP for Bristol South East then following defeat there in 1983, fought and won the Chesterfield byelection.

4. Described as an "Old Testament prophet" who "immatures with age" by then prime minister, Harold Wilson, he became minister of technology under the "white heat" Wilson government and opened the futuristic Post Office tower in London.

5. Out of parliament during the leadership election many believe he could have won in 1983, Mr Benn's unconditional support for the miner's strike, and most particularly its leader, Arthur Scargill, lead to him being demonized in the rightwing press.

6. A teetotaller who drinks a pint of tea every hour, and a vegetarian since 1980, Mr Benn has made a lifelong habit of recording every talk and interview he gives on cassette, dictaphone or minidisc, for fear of being misquoted by the media.

7. Despite his teetotal habits, Mr Benn is not entirely vice-free - he is rarely seen without his trademark pipe, and was, indeed, voted pipe smoker of the year in 1992.

8. Mr Benn is also one of Britain's most assiduous diarists, recording everything in his notebooks each night since 1940, with seven volumes now published. He is also the author of several books and tracts, including a powerful polemic against nuclear energy.

9. Since leaving parliament, he has mostly devoted himself to public speaking - winning many favourable reviews for his tour - and the Stop the War effort.

10. His son, Hilary Benn, became MP for Leeds Central in a 1999 byelection, and was recently promoted in Tony Blair's post-Byers reshuffle to minister for prisons and probation in the Home Office.

32 posted on 09/28/2002 2:06:22 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: spitz
If only you knew the history of Tony Ben! Even in radical left-wing circles the guy is a complete head case.

Benn as actually a minister at one point. A question was asked of a civil servant who worked for him about what Benn meant on an issue. The civil servant said, "The Minister is, frankly, barking mad."

Regards, Ivan

33 posted on 09/28/2002 2:08:34 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: swarthyguy
Well, between the Queen's curator, Blunt, and all the other upperclass twits who sold their soul to Koba, what's surprising about that.

It's not surprising. It's just disgusting.

At least Scargill was the son of a miner, i believe.

Correct. But Scargill is a professional whinger now. ;)

Regards, Ivan

34 posted on 09/28/2002 2:09:28 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: adam stevens
Although it is fun to mock the pacifists, they deserve more attention as they are working against America and giving support to those who want to destroy us. In fact many of them probably are tyring to destroy us.

I've been thinking the same thing lately, with these kinds of "protests" going on all over the place! We may be in for a real struggle internally over the War on Terrorism here in the U.S., as well as throughout Europe. Let the Culture Wars begin!

35 posted on 09/28/2002 2:10:35 PM PDT by SeenTheLight
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To: SeenTheLight
BUMP!
36 posted on 09/28/2002 2:19:58 PM PDT by adam stevens
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To: MadIvan
I bow to the inside knowledge of the civil servant. But it’s pretty obvious Ben’s a complete NUTTER, and anyone who couldn’t arrive at that conclusion should be promptly fitted with a jacket that buckles up at the back. :)
37 posted on 09/28/2002 2:35:55 PM PDT by spitz
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To: Cachelot
<< Those are "pacifists"? Not hardly. Give them some time and instead of protesting they'll be celebrating. >>

The UK, whose government has long in the hands of lunatic, elitist, socialist twits [About half calling themselves "Labour Party members and about the other half "Conservative" -- but arguing only about which of their corrupt totalitarian gangs should own operate and control the entire UK and eveyone and everything in it] -- has caused itself to have been so thoroughly invaded and colonized by unassimilable third world savages, like those you have pictured, as to considered by anthropologists to have effectively caused its very racial identity to have been lost.

Parts of the UK are simply "no-go-areas" and are impassable to white Britons and the entire populations of whole Bangladeshi and Pakistani and Indian and Nigerian and Ugandan and West Indian towns and villages have moved there and have in some instances so taken over UK locations, suburbs towns and city suburbs as to have made them uninhabitable by the Britons whose families have lived in their locations for, in some instances, hundreds of years.
38 posted on 09/28/2002 2:49:11 PM PDT by Brian Allen
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To: adam stevens
BBC claims between 150,000 and 400,000 are taking part in this protest. They have a poll online asking whether or not you support the protest. Right now, the result is about 71% pro, 28% against. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/2285861.stm

Adu-zar Aziz, Postgraduate student, 24, from Glasgow sez: "Every Muslim feels for another Muslim suffering elsewhere in the world. We can't physically go to help the Iraqis, but UK Muslims can raise our voices. The Iraq issue is the tip of the iceberg, Muslims are being persecuted around the world. There is an agenda against us. I am also marching to show solidarity for the Palestinians. Many Muslims feel if that issue was solved, the problems in other Muslim countries would be solved too. I hope the US and UK will start to hear [Muslim] voices. The media doesn't give us the attention we deserve. We have staged many large rallies with no coverage, while last week's countryside march was shown everywhere - on the BBC, Sky, everywhere. The Muslim community is criticised for not coming together, but we've organised for this march. It will bring together Muslims from all backgrounds and origins. We've felt ignored and hopeless in the past, but now we'll show we are united. I hope the governments of the US and UK will start to hear our voices."

39 posted on 09/28/2002 2:51:56 PM PDT by Eowyn-of-Rohan
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To: adam stevens
Britain has a "serious" immigration problem. I haven't been a Tony Blair enthusiast but he needs us, and we need him. He might want to start deporting and tighten Englands borders. This is serious stuff.
40 posted on 09/28/2002 2:53:45 PM PDT by WyCoKsRepublican
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